953 nut 51,947 #51 Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) On 11/6/2023 at 9:56 AM, rjg854 said: On 11/6/2023 at 9:23 AM, Mike'sHorseBarn said: This thread is awesome It certainly is! You 2 guys are the best for hooking Richard up like this. Now I hope you understand why I didn't want anything for those parts. The thread is OK Mike and Randy @Mike'sHorseBarn@rjg854 it is the people here on Red Square helping each other that are soooooo Awesome Each of us has offered help to one another and is what makes this group the best. Edited November 7, 2023 by 953 nut 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #52 Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, 953 nut said: Got an email from the seller today saying he forgot to give you the box with all the parts and pieces for the deck lift so he is mailing them to me. Good deal Richard but hold your horses after tinkering today got some bad news and some worse news... well maybe a little good news too. Bad news is some hoodlums got into the shed last nite. Knew I shoulda checked on things when the dog was barking. Guess those tires n rims were worth something... Oh my I hate it when Dan is right! But looky here what I found in the mouse nest! The fuel gauge and retainer! I have no idea if it can be saved yet but ain't afraid to give it a shot. Seems the movement it stuck but it appears to be able to be taken apart and restored. Now for the worst news... I mentioned to Dan how the whole steering column was loose. Here's why... The back of the column support is rusted away and cracked. This will mean it has to go out to a job shop... meaning Dan's garage... for rework. He better at this stuff than I and he has a magic welder. He's gonna have to come over and help me get it apart tho. Edited November 8, 2023 by WHX?? 1 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,947 #53 Posted November 8, 2023 Wonder if those wires were for the headlight kit that was available for the A-60? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #54 Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) No those were for the fuel guage as they call it. They are just tapping off those wires since there it power there all the time. Pretty cool light kit tho. Wonder how many are out there. Edited November 8, 2023 by WHX?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #55 Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) More here Richard. Charger out and on the bench for a cleaning, inspection and cordadectomy... Drive chain... rusted badly and more than one link won't turn. At least a dozen master links in it. Wrong chain to boot I suspect. What was on ther is a #41. Pretty sure it should be the more common to horses # 40. Huge difference In size. A 41 is more like a bicycle chain but same pitch as a 40. @SylvanLakeWH if you could confirm it should be a 40 that would be appreciated. IPL doesn't list the correct size but sprockets look to handle a 40 . Will be stamped on the side plates . #40 is used on all blowers and I have yards of it. 41 on top. Edited November 8, 2023 by WHX?? 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #56 Posted November 8, 2023 Tracked the tire thief down and got things right. God bless the 2nd amendment... One tube had slime in it ... lordy what a mess. One front had the really cheap wheel barrow bearings in it. Not Richard they is getting all new bearings. Couldn't sleep at nite otherwise. I like to pick the inner seal out and greasy pete them and put the seal back in. Lemme know what you prefer. The five inch rims do have zerks. The rears have three inch keys that are all busted up. They will get replaced. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 24,231 #57 Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, WHX?? said: @SylvanLakeWH if you could confirm it should be a 40 that would be appreciated. IPL doesn't list the correct size but sprockets look to handle a 40 . Will be stamped on the side plates . I'll check it out at lunch... Im gonna look at that fuel gauge area too. I don't think mine has that... What year is Richards's? Edited November 8, 2023 by SylvanLakeWH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #58 Posted November 8, 2023 No yours didn’t have it. Richard's is a '76. Musta been a later year thing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,947 #59 Posted November 8, 2023 13 hours ago, WHX?? said: But looky here what I found in the mouse nest! The fuel gauge and retainer! I have no idea if it can be saved yet but ain't afraid to give it a shot. Seems the movement it stuck but it appears to be able to be taken apart and restored. Jim, sounds like you have found yourself a challenge. Nothing to lose by giving it a try. 11 hours ago, WHX?? said: One front had the really cheap wheel barrow bearings in it. Not Richard they is getting all new bearings. Couldn't sleep at nite otherwise. I like to pick the inner seal out and greasy pete them and put the seal back in. Lemme know what you prefer. The five inch rims do have zerks. Give me the ID and OD on the bearings and I will send new ones to you. 11 hours ago, WHX?? said: One tube had slime in it ... lordy what a mess. 12 hours ago, WHX?? said: cordadectomy 13 hours ago, WHX?? said: back of the column support is rusted away and cracked. This will mean it has to go out to a job shop... meaning Dan's garage... for rework. Mouse nests can do a number on steel, You guys are the best. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 24,231 #60 Posted November 8, 2023 @WHX?? and @953 nut no joy on the chain... not marked on chain or sprockets... Heres measurements for you... Also no fuel gauge spot on my '75 unit... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #61 Posted November 8, 2023 Thanks Sylvia but I was looking for the number that's stamped on the side plates. Buy him a tape measure ... send him to school ... and he measures up the teacher.... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 24,231 #62 Posted November 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Thanks Sylvia but I was looking for the number that's stamped on the side plates. Buy him a tape measure ... send him to school ... and he measures up the teacher.... I know... there is no stamping on the side plates, sprockets or my forehead... Now, I know you and achto are way smarter then me ( that's a pretty low bar by the way) so i figured measuring with a tape instead of my thumb would be helpful... if not, then i have failed, miserably, and beg the curd gods forgiveness... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,947 #63 Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, SylvanLakeWH said: and @953 nut no joy on the chain... not marked on chain or sprockets. The #40 and #41 links are the same spacing from roller to roller. The spacing between the side plates at the roller is 0.25" for #41 chain and 0.3215 for #40 and the side plates are thicker on the #40 chain. #40 chain can be used on #40 or #41 sprockets but #41 chain may be too narrow for a #40 sprocket. See the photo Jim @WHX?? posted earlier. #41 on top and #40 below. Looking at your photo I'm thinking #40 was used. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 24,231 #64 Posted November 8, 2023 You want a pic of the chain head on he rear sprocket? I can snap it later today. Based on what you said, i'm thinking mine is 40... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #66 Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) Yep that's a #40. Thanks ... looks like yours has the same adjustments for setting the tension. One loosens the three axle supports and the axle pivots to the rear to set the tension. Since yours has never saw power till you owned it keep an eye on it after a few train pulls. They wear or stretch the most when new and seat into the sprockets. Richard's got a brand new one today. Sprockets looked to be in good shape. No hooked or bent teeth. Rims blasted, primed & half painted. Ran out of off white... now why did Dan put a empty can of paint back in the paint locker!?!? Edited November 9, 2023 by WHX?? 2 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,947 #67 Posted November 9, 2023 Thanks Jim. Do the front rims take the 1 3/8" OD bearing like other Wheel Horses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #68 Posted November 9, 2023 Yes they are. Don't fret about getting me any I have plenty. I buy bulk what with 20 horses to feed. I get good quality ones for less than 3 bucks a piece. Don't buy a pack of gaggers tomorrow their paid for. Lots of times Dan and I buy in bulk and split and save. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 26,611 #69 Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, WHX?? said: now why did Dan put a empty can of paint back in the paint locker If it was empty, I would have thrown it away. That can had just a very little bit left in it yet. Edited November 9, 2023 by Achto 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #70 Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) Now for the dilemma. The steering column support. It is not coming off unless the steering wheel comes off. Don't look at me Richard it's your rite of passage. This one would be particularly a hair puller since ther is a piece of 3/4 id pipe that has to slide off the actual steering shaft and is pinned on in two places. IPL shows it all. I got the pins in the pipe to move but the wheel forget it. Never had any luck with the soft touch wheels. Couple of other plans. A Cut the steering shaft in the enclosure & re- couple. B Try and weld the tower in place. Not a good option due to missing rusted metal. C Fab a reinforcing bracket to be placed in front or in back of the support where the angle finder is. The bolts below it hold the front axle to the pan. I'm gonna throw this ball in @Achtos court. No matter what its gotta get done... someone tries to hoist themselves in the seat using the steering wheel the whole thing is coming off. The front side...the moisture from the nest rotted this. Edited November 9, 2023 by WHX?? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 59,862 #71 Posted November 9, 2023 Just wrap that base in copper plates and start buzzing the buzzer rod at it! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 24,231 #72 Posted November 9, 2023 Looking at the damage and looking at mine, I'd go with option "c" and sandwich the support front and back with steel "L's" like the angle finder is shown. Go up and out for added support and weld or bolt in place. (Touch of red would be nice if either of you Wisconsin guys know anyone who can paint...) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #73 Posted November 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pullstart said: Just wrap that base in copper plates and start buzzing the buzzer rod at it! Yer talkin Greek to a simpleton here ... me thinks yer buzzed... sides we like to do it right here ... 8 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: I'd go with option "c" Here too ... see what Dan says he is the fab master this neck of the woods. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 46,934 #74 Posted November 9, 2023 BTW Sylvia... watch out how much moisture goes underneath the non skid in the pan. Adhesive was long gone on this one so it was loose and peeled right up. Lots of water underneath and pan starting to thin. Not for too long it would be Freddy Flintstone brakes. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,947 #75 Posted November 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, WHX?? said: C Fab a reinforcing bracket to be placed in front or in back of the support where the angle finder is. So option "C" would be a pair of braces sorta like this. should have been that way from the factory. 26 minutes ago, WHX?? said: I'm gonna throw this ball in @Achtos court. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
