KT17 Series 1 or 2 identification??

[ebinmaine 71,038]

What's the definitive way to tell if a KT17 is a Series 1 or Series 2 engine?

 

[oliver2-44 10,422]

The Series 1 did not have an oil filter.

Also by serial number but tins can be switched.

[ebinmaine 71,038]

21 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said:

The Series 1 did not have an oil filter.

Also by serial number but tins can be switched.

What's the year span? 

[J854D 137]

@ebinmaine, Eric, the spec numbers for series 1 is 24299 and lower and series 2 is 24300 and higher. If you go to the manuals section under engines, there is a KT17 & KT19 service manual available. The descriptions part of that file has a nice breakdown of the years and Wheel Horse models that those engines were used in.      -JD-

Edited October 3, 2023 by J854D

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https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?q=kt17&quick=1&type=downloads_file

[ebinmaine 71,038]

3 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

The Series 1 did not have an oil filter.

Also by serial number but tins can be switched.

I believe I have a series 2 without a filter also.  

[midpack 976]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

I believe I have a series 2 without a filter also.  

I do as well

[oliver2-44 10,422]

 @midpack@ebinmaine I stand corrected.  Looking at the service manual it says "some engines are equipped with an oil filter"

 

I'm curious, does your engines have a blanked off place to add an oil filter?

[ebinmaine 71,038]

34 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said:

 @midpack@ebinmaine I stand corrected.  Looking at the service manual it says "some engines are equipped with an oil filter"

 

I'm curious, does your engines have a blanked off place to add an oil filter?

 

@OldWorkHorse is there a blank on that one? 

[8ntruck 7,445]

I'm thinking that a series 1 does not have provisions for an oil filter, and the series 2 does have oil filter provisions.

 

Curious if the KT 17 series 1 had the same oiling issues that the KT 19 series 1 did.

[midpack 976]

1 hour ago, oliver2-44 said:

 

I'm curious, does your engines have a blanked off place to add an oil filter?

My series 2 has a block off plate. I even found a mounting plate but I haven't put it on. A remote filter would be the way to go 

[953 nut 58,275]

1 hour ago, 8ntruck said:

Curious if the KT 17 series 1 had the same oiling issues that the KT 19 series 1 did

[Brockport Bill 1,840]

here are 2 photos of what is my understanding shows the 2 different features of the Series 1 and Series 2 engine - 

[Brockport Bill 1,840]

i have found the Series 1 or 2 engine model indication on the tins and the air cleaner to be unreliable since so many have been changed over the years 

[ebinmaine 71,038]

8 hours ago, Brockport Bill said:

here are 2 photos of what is my understanding shows the 2 different features of the Series 1 and Series 2 engine - 

 

 

 

Bill it appears from my reading and asking questions that the earlier Series 2 engines did NOT have the oil filter boss. 

 

We have a pair of 1986 417As that we have no reason to believe have been modified and neither one has the boss to add an oil filter. 

 

[Brockport Bill 1,840]

4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Bill it appears from my reading and asking questions that the earlier Series 2 engines did NOT have the oil filter boss. 

 

We have a pair of 1986 417As that we have no reason to believe have been modified and neither one has the boss to add an oil filter. 

 

I have a c175 from 83 that's series 1 and a 84 c175 with series 2...it's certainly challenging to confirm various models with certainty?? 

[ebinmaine 71,038]

21 minutes ago, Brockport Bill said:

I have a c175 from 83 that's series 1 and a 84 c175 with series 2...it's certainly challenging to confirm various models with certainty?? 

Agreed. Especially in your case where that's right near the year split.