Should I ?

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

Soo.. this popped up on a marketplace near me. Should I? For future project 

Anyone know something about these engine?

 

Asking €225,- highest bid €160,-

Edited November 16, 2022 by sjoemie himself

[Snoopy11 5,713]

If it was me, I would bid on it...

 

Unfortunately, I do not speak the language... does it say if the engine runs? I take it that it does?

 

Don

[ebinmaine 63,214]

"should I?"

 

HOW IS THAT EVEN A QUESTION???

 

 

 

 

Seriously though....

A Wisconsin V4 is known as durable and power level given the size is plentiful.  

 

I've considered them multiple times for a Horse but never had the chance.  

 

 

Go get it... 

[Handy Don 10,632]

For someone with your talents, a use will come along sooner rather than later.

Following with interest!

[Pullstart 59,743]

Absolutely!

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

50 minutes ago, Snoopy11 said:

engine runs?

 Well.. that's the catch.. it doesn't run.. it does still rotate with the handcrank according to the seller 

 

39 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

HOW IS THAT EVEN A QUESTION???

Because I too have a SO 

Kidding aside, thanks for the input. Dunno if I would swap it with my Robin diesel.. might be a little toight.

 

24 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

use will come along

Yes, yes, I like your thinking. Much like how my brain works. Also using this logic to convince my girlfriend that this would be a sensible investment. Doesn't always work..

[WHX?? 46,813]

It might be top out at 200 if it doesn't run but still a gamble. 

If it is a Wisconsin 4  lunger they were the motor. Parts should be around for it yet. 

[Snoopy11 5,713]

1 hour ago, sjoemie himself said:

it does still rotate with the handcrank according to the seller 

 

 

Don

[JoeM 7,648]

Only had one experience with one of those and it ended badly. Broken housing at the cam gear. But I got to remember, nothing easy show up here. 

Ended up replacing the Winny with a 35 hp Briggs. It ran a small skid loader. 

If your into nestalgia or got a machine that is missing the OE engine for a resto,  it might be a good buy, I just think there are better choices, especially if you can test run them first. 

 

 

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

@WHX?? the engine is model mvh4d, so yes a V4. Agreed on the gamble, that's exactly what I told the seller. We'll see how much he wants to come down, if any.

Should sound interesting with individual exhausts me thinks..

 

@JoeM yikes, that sounds bad.

It's not that I need this engine, it popped up and I have never seen one (I'm from the Netherlands). 

Secondhand engines with less horsepower (18-25hp) from B&S, Honda or Kawasaki go for about $1000 to $1500.

 

[Pullstart 59,743]

2 hours ago, sjoemie himself said:

handcrank

totally awesome!

 

 

[Achto 26,573]

I have operated a fair amount of Bob Cat skid loaders that have had Wisconsin V4's in them. They were popular and good strong engines in their day. On that note, I will say that there are not a large amount of these skid loaders still in use today. One other note Wisconsin engines were bought out by Fuji/Subaru or "Robin small engines"  who completely discontinued small air cooled engines in 2017. Parts are still available, but not abundant. 

[WHX?? 46,813]

Not being able to hear it run I'm rethinking maybe E 1- 150 tops Mark. I guess I'm just not a gambler. With your skills tho and what you mentioned I don't think you would have a problem getting it to run. These motors are a kin to our beloved K series in that it doesn't take much to get them huffin rod or crank issues aside. 

On the up side I tied into a V-4 years ago. Can't remember the model but it was crank start with a magneto and had a gear reduction with a manual clutch. It was nasty looking but cleaned up nice and when I popped the heads the bores looked immaculate so I buttoned it back up and it fired on the second crank.

Customer put it on a home made dirt shredder made out of a manure spreader ... no lie... sure wished we had phone cams back then! 

Edited November 17, 2022 by WHX??

[WHX?? 46,813]

17 minutes ago, Achto said:

Parts are still available, but not abundant. 

I hear you saying over ther they might be proud of parts Dan? 

Side note here Dan did I mention the pile of V-4 blocks and other 'consins in that dilapidated shed across from the plow field? 

Edited November 17, 2022 by WHX??

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

25 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

awesome

Meh.. dunno how I feel about that. Have some experience in hand cranking diesel vibrating/compactor plates (or whatever you people call that ) and that was not always a pleasure.

I have come to appreciate the start button or key.

 

@Achto that the engines were in the Bobcats in the first place would suggest that they are rugged engins. However no engine gets better from sitting under a tarp for a few years, no matter how rugged the engine.

 

Did'nt know that Robin/Subaru bought Wisconsin. I managed to source some parts for my Robin DY41D of the 512-D so i'm not too worried about parts availability (yet).

Edited November 17, 2022 by sjoemie himself

[oliver2-44 8,860]

1 hour ago, sjoemie himself said:

Meh.. dunno how I feel about that. Have some experience in hand cranking diesel vibrating/compactor plates (or whatever you people call that ) and that was not always a pleasure.

I have come to appreciate the start button or key.

I worked on a few old hay bailers that had independent 2cyl or 4 cyl Wisconsin engines years ago.  They sure could break your wrist if you weren't careful hand cranking and they back fired.

[8ntruck 6,379]

Those old V4 Wisconsons are interesting engines.  Used in a lot of industrial applications.

 

My C-195 is likely to need a new engine someday.  One of those V4's would look cool in that application.

 

Should you? Absolutely!

Edited November 17, 2022 by 8ntruck

[JoeM 7,648]

I know the old engine was setting in the scrap pile. There was a guy here buying some WH parts and his co pilot seen it and gave me $40 for the carcass. I remember cause I bought a bottle of crown and went to the boat club and drank it with the owner of the skid steer. 

 

6 hours ago, sjoemie himself said:

I'm from the Netherlands

I can tell from your accent! 

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

Got some more pictures from the seller. Seems to be all there. The cart comes with the engine, or vice versa..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

Well folks, looks like I'm going to have to start thinking about two things:

 

1. What this engine will power

2. How to explain this purchase to my SO

[ebinmaine 63,214]

12 minutes ago, sjoemie himself said:

Well folks, looks like I'm going to have to start thinking about two things:

 

1. What this engine will power

2. How to explain this purchase to my SO

NIIIIICE. 

 

 

Your answer to "2"  is fairly easy.

 

I'll take the heat. You go right on ahead and tell you're wonderful loving caring patient SO that some crazy Bear 🐻  from the state of Maine in the US decided that you should own that engine.

 

Why, you may ask?

Well the fact of the matter is when I first saw the picture I decided that I liked it.

Just happens to be that it's a little too far away from me to go grab... 

[Snoopy11 5,713]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

SO that some crazy Bear

And some crazy Beagle from Indiana in the US...

 

Don

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

Will do @ebinmaine and @Snoopy11 !

Don't know if she'll be very impressed by that though  

 

About point #1: some ideas that crossed my mind:

- tractor (obviously)

- woodsaw (buzz saw)

- generator (bit boring)

- log splitter (overkill much?)

- .............???

 

I'm open to suggestions. 

[ebinmaine 63,214]

What's your idea of a buzz saw?

 

 

I'm thinking gas powered table saw.

Air compressor.

Any use for a water pump?

 

Tractor of course would be the most awesomest.

 

 

[sjoemie himself 2,918]

I should have said log saw.. we call it 'wipzaag'

Do I need it? No..

Could I make use of it? Yes

Will I have happy neighbours if I do? Prolly not

 

Air compressor and waterpump I already have electrical powered versions of. Both fulfill my needs.

 

Edited November 17, 2022 by sjoemie himself
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