6 speed swap

[857lover 284]

just picked up a 6 speed for my 857 i’m excited to bolt it up me and @danweikert21 will keep you guys updated 

[ebinmaine 62,974]

What's your reason for wanting to swap?

[857lover 284]

8 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

What's your reason for wanting to swap?

there isn’t a ton of reason to be honest with you besides the fact that’s it’s a hi low trans  and that the transmission that’s in it is shot but i will be taking it apart to look at and try and fix 

Edited March 10, 2022 by 857lover

[Maxwell-8 4,270]

Any idea where it came out of? 

[857lover 284]

7 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said:

Any idea where it came out of? 

no unfortunately 

[ebinmaine 62,974]

1 minute ago, 857lover said:

there isn’t a ton of reason to be honest with you besides the fact that’s it’s a hi low trans  and that the transmission that’s in it is shot but i will be taking it apart to look at and try and fix 

 

The upper range of a high low is the same gearing as a three or four speed.

 

You'll get two benefits out of changing from a 3-speed to a 6-speed transmission.

One is that the axles are a little beefier but quite frankly that has never been proven to make much difference to me.  

 

The other is that the 6 speeds have Limited Slip Differential.

 

 

Low range really won't do anything for you unless you are backing slowly or using implements like a tiller.

[857lover 284]

27 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

The upper range of a high low is the same gearing as a three or four speed.

 

You'll get two benefits out of changing from a 3-speed to a 6-speed transmission.

One is that the axles are a little beefier but quite frankly that has never been proven to make much difference to me.  

 

The other is that the 6 speeds have Limited Slip Differential.

 

 

Low range really won't do anything for you unless you are backing slowly or using implements like a tiller.

do you know the oil capacity of the six speed ?

[ebinmaine 62,974]

Just now, 857lover said:

do you know the oil capacity of the six speed ?

2 quarts. Least expensive 80 or 90 weight you can find.

 

 

Three or four speed capacity is 1.5 quarts but I put two in mine when I refill.

 

 

[Pullstart 59,563]

2 qts on all of ‘em for me.

[stevasaurus 22,229]

That transmission is either a #5060 or a #5071...depending on the differential end plates.  10 pinion Limited Slip.  

[Pullstart 59,563]

So since we were talking about limited slip the other day, if you try to spin one hub forward and the other backward, it will give a pretty gnarly clicking/jamming sound in the rearend.  That’s that spring trying to hold everything in the same position and is a good thing.

[pfrederi 17,129]

If it has the aluminum end plates it would be another good reason not to subject it to shock loads.

[ebinmaine 62,974]

1 minute ago, Pullstart said:

So since we were talking about limited slip the other day, if you try to spin one hub forward and the other backward, it will give a pretty gnarly clicking/jamming sound in the rearend.  That’s that spring trying to hold everything in the same position and is a good thing.

If it's holding right and the transmission is just on the bench or floor or whatever with no hubs or wheels you'd be hard pressed to do that.

 

[squonk 38,846]

18 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

If it has the aluminum end plates it would be another good reason not to subject it to shock loads.

Spring isn't going to last either.

[857lover 284]

i want to thank all of you guys for helping me get my ol 857 running….can i call it a 867 now

[Pullstart 59,563]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

If it's holding right and the transmission is just on the bench or floor or whatever with no hubs or wheels you'd be hard pressed to do that.

 

didn’t say it’s easy! 💪 

 

[Pullstart 59,563]

23 minutes ago, 857lover said:

can i call it a 867 now

good job!  That was pretty quick!

[857lover 284]

12 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

good job!  That was pretty quick!

yea i took the shifter out to fill it and now i can’t get it back in properly:/

[ebinmaine 62,974]

2 minutes ago, 857lover said:

yea i took the shifter out to fill it and now i can’t get it back in properly:/

They can be.... Challenging.  

 

Just keep trying.   

[857lover 284]

7 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

They can be.... Challenging.  

 

Just keep trying.   

it seems like it’s in but the shifter won’t move 

[Pullstart 59,563]

You’ll get it!  Make sure the shift forks are lined up before you start.  [ ] they should make a square when they are in the right spot for the shifter to go.

[Pullstart 59,563]

Just now, 857lover said:

it seems like it’s in but the shifter won’t move 

loosen the dog point a smidge?

[857lover 284]

1 minute ago, Pullstart said:

You’ll get it!  Make sure the shift forks are lined up before you start.  [ ] they should make a square when they are in the right spot for the shifter to go.

i see it now they aren’t lined up how do i move it ?

[Pullstart 59,563]

A big screw driver might help.  

[857lover 284]

Just now, 857lover said:

i see it now they aren’t lined up how do i move it ?

i got it @Pullstart thanks that’s a life saver 😂