Maxwell-8 4,367 #2 Posted February 14, 2022 We have to sort the colored and white glass seperate. We often use microglass insulation. Because it is relatively cheap. And our government mandates every room to be insulated even a workshop. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elcamino/wheelhorse 9,362 #3 Posted February 15, 2022 Very interesting . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EB-80/8inPA 1,850 #4 Posted February 15, 2022 Thanks for sharing this interesting video. So, that stuff is “biosoluble” and safe. Who knew? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 59,928 #5 Posted February 15, 2022 12 hours ago, EB-80/8inPA said: So, that stuff is “biosoluble” and safe. Not so sure about that, I will always have a good respirator on when working with fiberglass. Very interesting video @ebinmaine, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 41,954 #6 Posted February 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Not so sure about that, I will always have a good respirator on when working with fiberglass. And keep all skin covered. Grinding and sanding fiberglass when repairing boats is a nasty itchy experience. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,177 #7 Posted February 15, 2022 Interesting!! My son recently climbed into the attic of my home tracing out a tv cable and came down saying that my 45 year old blown in insulation had 'sagged' pretty badly and also there were several missing areas. So, we went H Depot and rented a blower and got 10 bundles of - well I dont recall the brand, but was "fibreglass". He bundled up in - stocking hat, goggles, full face mask, gloves. long sleeve shirt, etc etc and we were surprised at the way that thing worked, would 'shoot' the glass some 8-10 feet making for lot less movement in a cramped attic. I fed the hopper and only used 5 'bales' of the glass and was finished in less than 2 hrs - I had rented the blower for a full day! Our weather has been mild so I cant get an idea as to any change inside, this summer when our muggy heat comes on, I'm thinking - hoping! -I will see a difference in my AC bill. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,206 #8 Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, pacer said: fibreglass It said that on the package? Typically, the homeowner blown in stuff is cellulose based. Edited February 15, 2022 by Jeff-C175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,815 #9 Posted February 15, 2022 I'll have to check on my glass in about a million years, no recycling here. Running a second garbage truck got too expensive and they can't get enough employees to run even one truck. Lately, the garbage truck has been showing up about every other week even though I paid for weekly service. Here is the same problem in the neighboring township. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,177 #10 Posted February 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jeff-C175 said: said that on the package? Yeah, I already had pink fibre glass up there and I couldnt get to excited about cellulose anyway...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 41,954 #11 Posted February 15, 2022 57 minutes ago, lynnmor said: can't get enough employees Same problem for most companies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,815 #12 Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Ed Kennell said: Same problem for most companies. I checked the Penn Waste website to see if they are really trying to hire, I have no clue how they expect to find applicants. Further searching resulted in some posts saying they are offering less wages than nearly all places trying to hire. I wouldn’t hang off the back of a truck in all kinds of weather if I could flip burgers for more money. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,206 #13 Posted February 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, lynnmor said: flip burgers AND be able to eat what you're throwing! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 72,637 #14 Posted February 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, lynnmor said: I checked the Penn Waste website to see if they are really trying to hire, I have no clue how they expect to find applicants. Further searching resulted in some posts saying they are offering less wages than nearly all places trying to hire. I wouldn’t hang off the back of a truck in all kinds of weather if I could flip burgers for more money. Maine State DOT work used to be THE job to get. Now the pay is average at best. Certainly not worth the value of working all night plowing snow through a storm. I still wouldn't want to be an insulation installer though!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,667 #15 Posted February 15, 2022 46 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Maine State DOT work used to be THE job to get. Now the pay is average at best. Certainly not worth the value of working all night plowing snow through a storm. I still wouldn't want to be an insulation installer though!!! But I bet they have a good health plan and and retirement with 30 years or less at great pay... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,196 #16 Posted February 15, 2022 Yeah, I bet. If the job doesn't kill you in the process. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 72,637 #17 Posted February 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, pfrederi said: But I bet they have a good health plan and and retirement with 30 years or less at great pay... Just now, AMC RULES said: Yeah, I bet. If the job doesn't kill you in the process. You are both correct. At my previous employer I was a New England regional driver. Massive amounts of hand unloaded freight weight and massive amounts of overnight work and long days. That job took all I had plus... Absolutely no way I could consider doing that level of physical exhaustion for 30 years. I know the state gig wouldn't have the hand unloaded freight for the most part but those swing shifts ... something that humans should not be doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,667 #18 Posted February 15, 2022 PennDot 62.5% of final salary after 25 years. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,196 #19 Posted February 15, 2022 Great. Who can live on that these days? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy11 5,718 #20 Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, AMC RULES said: Yeah, I bet. If the job doesn't kill you in the process. SCREAMS law enforcement. Walmart employees make more. Retirement is average... unless you die first. 3 minutes ago, AMC RULES said: Great. Who can live on that these days? That is the whole point. Maybe eating canned-cat food, selling everything of value, and moving into a dump... (I know an old guy who has had to do this). Don Edited February 15, 2022 by Snoopy11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,799 #21 Posted February 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, pfrederi said: PennDot 62.5% of final salary after 25 years. Not bad. After 25 yrs. it was probably a good rate. + SSI + any other retirements plans you have. It's better than working in an auto shop for 25 yrs. and getting nothing! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,196 #22 Posted February 15, 2022 Ahhh yeah. The American dream is alive and... NOT! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,815 #23 Posted February 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, pfrederi said: PennDot 62.5% of final salary after 25 years. Pensions are pretty much a thing of the past in the private sector. You will find that many government employees are promoted at the end of their career to increase the lifetime pension, just another game that is played. If one cannot live on that 62.5%, then they can get a real job and work alongside the elderly that get nothing. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EB-80/8inPA 1,850 #24 Posted February 16, 2022 11 hours ago, 953 nut said: Not so sure about that, Me neither. The idea that glass, regardless of the form, can somehow be “biosoluble” is hard for me to grasp. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 59,928 #25 Posted February 16, 2022 DEFINITION FOR (BIO)SOLUBILITY If glass will not decompose in the environment how is it going to react in your lungs? Here is some doubletalk on the subject I found on the internet, can someone tell me what the heck they are actually saying? The human body is 60% water and glass isn't water soluble so what is this stuff being biosolubil in and is it somehow expelled from the body or just sort of deposited somewhere? According to an IUPAC definition (IUPAC 1997) solubility is the analytical composition of a saturated solution expressed as a proportion of a designated solute in a designated solvent. In text books of chemistry, a substance is said to be soluble if more than 0.1 g of that substance dissolves in 100 ml solvent. If less than 0.1 g dissolves in 100 ml solvent, the substance is said to be insoluble or, more exactly, sparingly soluble (Fundamentals of Chemistry; http://www.chem.wisc.edu/deptfiles/genchem/sstutorial/FunChem.htm). For the definition of “poorly soluble particles” in the framework of `lung overload` see also Section 1.3. Inhaled particles are processed by biological systems upon deposition, and are exposed to complex mixtures of biogenic solvents. Thus, biosolubility means solubility in a biological system e.g. cell system, biological fluid (or its simulants), in an animal. Biosolubility may differ significantly from the solubility in water and varies depending on biological systems. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Union_of_Pure_and_Applied_Chemistry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites