we just got our third pfizer covid shots

[Snoopy11 5,713]

On 10/5/2021 at 8:26 AM, squonk said:

haul the laminated one around in your glove box

Why?

 

I am fully vaccinated... but still wear a mask in public just to piss people off... 

 

Put my vaccine card in my glove box? Nah... if anyone asks me for it... I'll put it somewhere else for them. ☝️ )(

 

Don

[Stormin 9,975]

 Go for my booster today. As for wearing a mask, I don't outside. For one thing I avoid crowds. If going into a shop, filling station I do out of respect for other people. Just a pity respect is in short supply.

 

 

[peter lena 8,067]

@Ed Kennell very sorry to hear about your son , do what you can to help in any way , pete

[Handy Don 10,597]

1 hour ago, Stormin said:

 Go for my booster today. As for wearing a mask, I don't outside. For one thing I avoid crowds. If going into a shop, filling station I do out of respect for other people. Just a pity respect is in short supply.

 

 

Being vaccinated doesn't affect odds of acquiring or spreading infection. Masks reduce those odds.

I mask in all indoor settings and outdoors where people are in close proximity. I'm trying to model socially responsible behavior and protect me and my family, not antagonize anyone.

[adsm08 1,434]

1 minute ago, Handy Don said:

Being vaccinated doesn't affect odds of acquiring or spreading infection. Masks reduce those odds.

I mask in all indoor settings and outdoors where people are in close proximity. I'm trying to model socially responsible behavior and protect me and my family, not antagonize anyone.

Nobody has yet explained to me, in a manner that makes any sense, how a mask with 20 micron holes in it can stop half micron virus particles.

[wallfish 15,919]

19 minutes ago, adsm08 said:

Nobody has yet explained to me, in a manner that makes any sense, how a mask with 20 micron holes in it can stop half micron virus particles.

I'll try being Devil's advocate so how about this?

The virus size may be 1/2 micron (as an example) but it's spewed out of your mouth and nose attached on larger particles of moisture. The virus molecules are NOT just floating around all on their own by themselves at 1/2 micron like you are visioning they are. They are transferred by attaching to larger particles of moisture. Even if a crappy mask or face covering doesn't capture 100% of the moisture or all of the molecules leaving you, it is, without any doubt, capturing some and therefore working to some degree vs not filtering anything at all. It's not about you filtering out the virus intake with a mask to yourself! It's about limiting the molecules LEAVING you and therefore lowering the chances of someone else inhaling or contacting those molecules. The less amount spewed out of you equals the less chances of someone else coming in contact with them. If you wear a mask or face covering it WILL in fact get moist from your own breath. So now imagine all of that moisture which was captured in the material of a mask is undoubtedly that much less moisture than what would have been expelled into the air around you. Would you agree that the less moisture from your body available in the surrounding air would be less chance someone else breathes some of it in? The mistake with anti-maskers is they believe a mask is for their own protection while it is not, it's for the protection of the 10, 20, 50 other people around you! A proper mask may also protect the person wearing it to some degree as well. If it captures for example, 1 million particles from you breathing in yet you actually breathed in 10 million particles, would that not equal a 10% reduction in the particles breathed in and a possibility of lower chances breathing in a particle with the virus attached? Even if it's 1% isn't that at least something? Just because it's not completely 100% effective doesn't equal doing nothing at all makes more sense.

Another question, If 2 known Covid positive tested people were standing 2' away right in front of you, one has a mask on and the other doesn't, which one would you prefer doesn't cough on you? Or better yet let's now change those 2 people to having Meningitis. Now is it possible the mask might work to do at minimum something? VS absolutely nothing at all?

 I have yet to have anyone explain to me in any terms that make any sense how not wearing a mask is helpful and completely useless. Let's assume for a second any mask wearing does nothing at all except make other people more comfortable in their surroundings around you. Isn't that good enough reason alone to wear one?

BTW, I hate wearing these face diapers too!

[AMC RULES 36,945]

How about,

if nothing else, 

 just displaying some consideration for others, besides yourself.

Too much to ask?

Edited November 14, 2021 by AMC RULES

[Ed Kennell 35,770]

4 hours ago, peter lena said:

@Ed Kennell very sorry to hear about your son , do what you can to help in any way , pete

Thank you Pete and everyone.      We have been doing thier grocery shopping and just dropped off meals for several days.

I might add,  Mikes wife Libby lost her only sibling, her 47 yo brother, three years ago.    Her 96 yo Grandfather one year ago.  And now her 72 yo Father last week.

[AMC RULES 36,945]

  God bless Libby.

[Snoopy11 5,713]

3 hours ago, Handy Don said:

Being vaccinated doesn't affect odds of acquiring or spreading infection. Masks reduce those odds.

I mask in all indoor settings and outdoors where people are in close proximity. I'm trying to model socially responsible behavior and protect me and my family, not antagonize anyone.

I said what I said because I got physically and verbally attacked for wearing a mask in Lowes... 

 

At that time, I decided that I was going to wear a mask regardless of my vaccinated status. If someone feels that violent about me not wearing a mask, then I must be doing something right. 

 

Don

[formariz 11,849]

On 11/14/2021 at 1:55 PM, Snoopy11 said:

I said what I said because I got physically and verbally attacked for wearing a mask in Lowes... 

 

 

As you all know we had our own encounters with someone objecting us wearing masks. Still constantly we get looks and outright comments regarding it. Sometimes we witness others talking and pointing to us being evident what the topic is. We even get treated differently in some establishments which obviously do not believe in it. We choose immediately after that to no longer frequent such places. It funny how non believers many times say that it is an infringement on their liberties but yet they infringe on my liberty to wear what ever I want . If you don't believe in it , do not wear it and do not frequent places that require it. I do not treat anyone that does not wear one differently when directly interacting with them, so why should I be treated differently? It is my choice as much as it is their choice. I do not want to argue with anyone about the merits or non-merits of it, I just want to to be respected the same way I respect others.

On 11/13/2021 at 10:04 PM, Snoopy11 said:

haul the laminated one around in your glove box

There is a bar code that one carries around such as they do in Europe that can be scanned and have ones vaccination status officially confirmed without the fear of having certificate declare a fake. The App is called "Docket". It contains the bar code and also the records involved with the vaccination including and official document from state in PDF format certifying it.

Edited November 18, 2021 by formariz

[Handy Don 10,597]

44 minutes ago, formariz said:

 

 

 

New York has a similar app that holds and display one's "Excelsior Pass" ("Excelsior" is the NYS motto, in case anyone is interested.) You can also make a copy in your "Wallet" app on an iPhone or iPad.  App got a recent upgrade to show the boosters.

 

I've helped several "senior" friends install the app and get their Pass downloaded.

Edited November 18, 2021 by Handy Don

[Snoopy11 5,713]

1 hour ago, formariz said:

As you all know we had our own encounters with someone objecting us wearing masks. Still constantly we get looks and outright comments regarding it. Sometimes we witness others talking and pointing to us being evident what the topic is. We even get treated differently in some establishments which obviously do not believe in it. We choose immediately after that to no longer frequent such places. It funny how non believers many times say that it is an infringement on their liberties but yet they infringe on my liberty to wear what ever I want . If you don't believe in it , do not wear it and do not frequent places that require it. I do not treat anyone that does not wear one differently when directly interacting with them, so why should I be treated differently? It is my choice as much as it is their choice. I do not want to argue with anyone about the merits or non-merits of it, I just want to to be respected the same way I respect others.

Yes sir. I agree with everything you have said here.

 

Being 100% vaccinated means nothing when people in your family have died from the virus, as have several people in my family. Last year was extremely hard for my family... and I would do anything I can to prevent more sickness and death. 

 

And, if it pisses people off, I look at it as a good thing. People NEED to be made to think about these things. That is one of the problems in this modern world... too many people playing 'follow the leader.' 

 

Don