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Wellingtontx

Looking for someone to rebuild 8 speed 5091 ?

 

Anybody know of anyone who rebuilds ?

 

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If you have some mechanical ability and a few hand tools you can rebuild this transmission yourself. @stevasaurus has a great post on this subject, check it out.

 

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stevasaurus

Welcome to Red Square.  :text-welcomeconfetti:

   If you think you can't re-build this transmission, then you really need to find somebody close to you.  It would probably cost around $100 to just ship it one way to someone like me.  That's $200 just in shipping.  Depending on what is wrong...well, let's not go there yet.  What do you think is wrong with your transmission??  It really is pretty easy and reasonable to do yourself, and we will help walk you through the whole process.  We do have some members that may not be too far from you...you can check our "Member Map" at the top of the main page.  :occasion-xmas:

 

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Wellingtontx

The problem is that I am starting without an assembled transmission.  I have a box of parts.  My understanding is that it originally would not shift into 2nd or 3rd.

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Oldskool
29 minutes ago, Wellingtontx said:

The problem is that I am starting without an assembled transmission.  I have a box of parts.  My understanding is that it originally would not shift into 2nd or 3rd.

Sounds like half the work is already done. Can you lay out all your parts and post a pic?

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Wellingtontx

Yes, thank you so much.  I will get some pics posted tomorrow.

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oliver2-44

Welcome to another Texan. I see your way up in the panhandle. I’m an hour NW of Austin, so 6 hours away.  Wish I were closer!  Tell us a little about yourself or what tractor you have. Is the rest of the tractor in one piece. We love pictures. 

 

I’ve done 3 different model WH transmissions and they are fairly simple. Since yours has the hubs off and rear hitch pin out your 1/2 way there. @stevasaurus is our resident transmission guru. He has some YouTube videos and write ups that he can point you to. Also once you post pics there’s plenty of help here to identify any parts that need to be replaced and walk you through reassembly
in the vendors section you will see A-Z Tractor an excellent used parts source, WheelHorse Parts and More a great source for bearings and seals and a few reproduced gears. There are also other vendors that always have NOS goodies. 
 

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Posted (edited)

You guys on this forum are the best.

 

Just acquired a 1974 C-160.  I will try to get the pics posted if I can figure out how to do that.

 

Oliver2-44, my property is up in the Panhandle but I live in the Metromess/DFW.  My great grandmother lived in Marble Falls.  I spent a lot time looking in the window at Burnham Brothers Sporting Goods at the rattlesnakes.  Creeped me out to say the least.  LOL. 

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stevasaurus

If everything is in a bucket, you have it made.  All you need is a 9/16, 1/2, 7/16 & a 1/8" Allen wrench.  Lay out the parts and show us a picture.  Take a couple of pics of the case halves also.  If you put the pictures on a computer, you can then open the thing to post and see "chose files" at the bottom.  Find your pictures, highlight and click OK.  They show up below and you can add them to you post.

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squonk

Best to lay it all out and show the pics. Hopefully everything is there including ck balls, springs ECT.

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Wellingtontx

 

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Wellingtontx

Do these numbers mean anything to anyone? 
 

Paperwork says this was originally a 5091 but now I am not sure ? 
 

Will get my parts and pieces laid out for photos 

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Oldskool

Sorry,  I cant help with the numbers, but by the looks of the hubs I believe those would be the older style hubs.

1inch shafts??

The pic below will become really handy.

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Wellingtontx

Well tonight I will buy a micrometer on the way home and start with checking axle size.

 

I will then get pics of trans internals, was going to get that done last night but unfortunately tragedy struck family friend last night.

 

Again, everyone on this sight has been great and very helpful

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Parts

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Parts 2

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Parts 2

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Posted (edited)

Shaft measures 1 1/8 inch.

 

Finally re-confirmed Model No.:  10385 9

 

I now believe that it may be a 1974 C-162 vs. C-160.   Decals say C-160 but the Wheel Horse Master Model List says C-162

 

Anybody know the difference between a C-160 v C-162 ?  Note:  Just found a prior post from 2011 thats says difference is the Tecumseh engine main difference.  Decals say C-160.

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oliver2-44
17 minutes ago, Wellingtontx said:

Parts 2

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The gear on the right looks like the gear teeth are rounded on the edge. You might give us a pic with it standing up so we can see it better 

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oliver2-44
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9 hours ago, Wellingtontx said:

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The cluster gear in the upper right corner of your pic looks like the teeth are rounded on the middle gear.  You might add a close up of that gear

 

There is a gear that had teeth on the inside that mates with the input gear. You might flip that one over and give up a pic of it. 

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oliver2-44
On 4/26/2021 at 9:27 PM, Wellingtontx said:

 

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Also show us a pic of the input gear that is part of the shaft the pulley is on

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