Greentored 3,220 #1 Posted April 20, 2020 If the Raider 12, (tractor #3) I snagged yesterday and posted wasnt confirmation of the addiction, today is. Buddy had this listed 2 miles away and dropped it off. Being kinda new to Horses, wasnt sure what it was but it had a Kohler, foot rests, and a hydro? Research showed most likely a 875, maybe a 1075. Nope. 1277. Never heard of them, but digging online sounds like a picked a winner? One year only? If thats the case, so much for a quick flip. This baby will live the rest of her days in my hands I am 100%, completely, full blown addict at this point and its all you's fault! 2 10 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,220 #2 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Sparky said: I remember when I was buying up any red tractors I could find within a 250 mile radius! Tons of fun ...the thrill of the hunt! Most ever here at one time was 16 machines. Don’t buy em like I used to, still enjoy them but find it’s easier with just 4 or 5 “ in-stock”. Nice find with that 1277, and delivered is great! Man, I went through that with Coleman lanterns a few years ago. They are also a bad addiction but much cheaper than Horses. I bought every lantern I ran across, ended up with close to 150, and thought ‘now what?’ Ha! Finally had to sell off the common stuff and concentrate on ‘quality over quantity.’ So far so good, concentrating on pre 70s Horses and has to be a steal. Ol wallet won’t support too many! Sure am enjoying this though and can’t wait to roll into a show and meet you all face to face. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ClassicTractorProfessor 5,455 #3 Posted April 21, 2020 1277 was my first WH, great machines, there is just something about the feeling you get looking down that long hood while mowing, good luck with yours 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 88vic #4 Posted April 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, pullstart said: Congrats on the score! I’m starting to slow down now with some 19? at the house... naw, who am I kidding! I'm at 19 myself, it's hard to say no when another great deal drops into your lap. Trying to control the urge is almost impossible. Glad to see I'm not the only one 😂👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dells68 7,499 #5 Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, pullstart said: Congrats on the score! I’m starting to slow down now with some 19? at the house... naw, who am I kidding! I gave up on resisting the obsession. With at least 26 horses I’m one sick dude! 1 1 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,220 #6 Posted April 21, 2020 Thanks guys! @ebinmaine and @Achto ok Im an idiot haha, never really thought of it that way, according to model number they all are indeed 'one year' builds back then. I ran across stuff online when searching "1277" and it appeared to be an oddball, perhaps the combination of 12hp/hydro and footrest style or something, or at least a 'not very common' model. Considering I was looking for a possible Kohler for the 654 trail toy and couldnt find one, and now have two big block Kohlers WITH the tractors, still pretty thrilled 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,220 #7 Posted April 21, 2020 8 hours ago, tom2p said: you dog ! but gonna be tough to top the trail machine - neat and unique ! Thanks man! That ol trail bomber is a blast, and has a few of my buddies now looking for some form of tractor to do the same. I built an adjustable wheelie bar for it and was finally able to conquer the 'impossible' creekbed hill behind the shop, riding the bar all the way up. Cell phone GPS also confirmed a top speed of 28mph! Needless to say, shes getting a pulley swap for about half that speed, as anything other than low gear is pretty much useless in the woods if I want to remain sitting on the seat 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,220 #8 Posted April 21, 2020 @tom2p OOH, 69 4-4-2!!!??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,220 #9 Posted April 24, 2020 Alright fellas, got the fuel pump cleaned out and functioning, flushed tank, new lines, battery, plug wire, one rear tube (original WH tires, rough but functional!) filed the points and drove her on the trailer to take home (tractors in the shop are becoming a work distraction ha) She ran but not well and kept 'cutting out', a new set of points and condenser and she purrs like a kitten- and no smoke- gotta love that! After spacing my garden rows to where the 520H just fits between for dragging the disc (or future cultivator) between the rows, I did not account for the 48" deck being on in summer and ran the deck wheel directly over nearly the entire row of onions while watching the 'beets' side. (fortunately, most of them are making a comeback) Being that it takes a whole 2 grueling minutes to R&R the deck, think id better just keep this 1277 for cultivator duty, right? See- Im catching on, fellas- one does indeed need more than one Horse! With that being said, can you all give me the lowdown on these beasts? Anything I need to watch out for? What do those K301s and Sunstrand hydros prefer to drink? Wiring-wise, it has the standard starter/gen setup and a heavy, double eyelet cable attached to generator A which I need to touch to 12V to whirl it over, as well as a small, standard wire and end coming from the ignition switch start terminal, and no starter push button. This indicates to me that this would be a 'solenoid' model and it is just missing, am I correct? Which wire actually provides the 'charge' for the battery? Probably oughtta replace at least that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,220 #10 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: No solenoid 'Red. The S/G will START if current is fed, and CHARGE if spun by engine. Neat system. Check the electric section for the correct schematic. @ebinmaine thanks buddy! Found a few schematics, and it appears someone in the past had replaced the ignition switch with a blade (light duty?) style and most likely wired in a solenoid. Think ill replace the switch with a heavy duty one and be good to go? Not sure how much amperage goes through that "start" terminal to the gen armature, but it makes a pretty good spark when touching the 12V+ to roll it over and start. Edited April 24, 2020 by Greentored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,220 #11 Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) @ebinmaine whatcha think of Pullstart's diagram above? I can have a 60 amp push button here in 15 minutes. Think 60 would cut it? Edited April 24, 2020 by Greentored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greentored 3,220 #12 Posted April 24, 2020 Thanks buddy! Kinda like the push button idea even if its not factory correct. Man, considering some of the stuff Ive had to wire and repair on these old musclecars, the Horse will be a breeze. Solder and heat shrink are in my vocabulary. Scotch locks and butt connectors are not 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
