Stephen Santospago 8 #1 Posted October 5, 2019 Hi, I'm new to wheel horse.I have a b-80 that will not start. I installed a new battery and still nothing at all. I used it last about a month ago and there weren't any problems and now all of a sudden I'm not getting anything. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 10,741 #2 Posted October 5, 2019 @Stephen Santospago I'm not that familiar with a B-80, but, have you checked any safety switches that might be on your tractor? Is the PTO disengaged? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 35,798 #3 Posted October 5, 2019 Is the PTO disengaged? PTO, seat, and clutch pedal safety switches can prevent power from getting to the solenoid and starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 35,798 #4 Posted October 5, 2019 Randy, you're too quick. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,155 #6 Posted October 5, 2019 Also be sure to have clean ground connections 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 516 #7 Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) to Check for good ground connections and no broken wires. Edited October 5, 2019 by JimmyJam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 516 #8 Posted October 5, 2019 @Ed Kennell If his coil was original and old would that make a difference if it wouldn’t start? Ignition switch problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,721 #9 Posted October 5, 2019 If you place an old screw driver across the two large posts of the solenoid will the starter turn over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 35,798 #10 Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, JimmyJam said: @Ed Kennell If his coil was original and old would that make a difference if it wouldn’t start? Ignition switch problem? A bad coil could prevent it from starting, but would not prevent the starter from turning the engine overl 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Santospago 8 #11 Posted October 5, 2019 Yeah I made sure the PTO clutch was not engaged and I had the clutch pedal pushed down. Thank you for advice! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 516 #12 Posted October 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: A bad coil could prevent it from starting, but would not prevent the starter from turning the engine overl So a bad coil would do what? Try to start? should he replace the coil? He mentioned that it does nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 516 #13 Posted October 5, 2019 Ignition switch??? I am reaching for straws. Anyone have thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,155 #14 Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Stephen Santospago said: Yeah I made sure the PTO clutch was not engaged and I had the clutch pedal pushed down. Thank you for advice! If you have taken those steps and you are sure those switches were disengaged appropriately then you will need to get into some diagnostics. Do you have a DVOM or a test light? It would be best to have a meter that would check continuity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Ed Kennell 35,798 #16 Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Stephen Santospago said: Yeah I made sure the PTO clutch was not engaged and I had the clutch pedal pushed down. Thank you for advice! OK, so you have checked the easy stuff. Now, failure of any device in the starting circuit or a break in any connection of these devices in the starting circuit can cause it to not turn over. These devices include: the battery the ignition switch the safety switches the solenoid the starter. Eliminate all of these devices except the starter by jumping +12V directly to the starter post to see if it will turn over. Edited October 6, 2019 by Ed Kennell 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Santospago 8 #17 Posted October 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: If you have taken those steps and you are sure those switches were disengaged appropriately then you will need to get into some diagnostics. Do you have a DVOM or a test light? It would be best to have a meter that would check continuity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Santospago 8 #18 Posted October 6, 2019 No my friend does though and it's time to stop over. Thank you very much I will laugh I'll let you know how it works out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Santospago 8 #19 Posted October 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: OK, so you have checked the easy stuff. Now, failure of any device in the starting circuit or a break in any connection of these devices in the starting circuit can cause it to not turn over. These devices include: the battery the ignition switch the safety switches the solenoid the starter. Eliminate all of these devices except the starter by jumping +12V directly to the starter post to see if it will turn over. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Santospago 8 #20 Posted October 6, 2019 Thank you Ed, I will check all those items you mentioned. Very helpful really appreciate it! I will let you know how it works out. Thanks again 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 516 #21 Posted October 6, 2019 Ignition switch may be the problem if it’s not the solenoid. I can’t seem to remember the last time I had to buy an ignition switch or solenoid. Suggestion guys and gals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Santospago 8 #22 Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, 953 nut said: If you place an old screw driver across the two large posts of the solenoid will the starter turn over? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Santospago 8 #23 Posted October 6, 2019 Thank you 953 nut, if the solenoid is bad would you have any idea where I could get a new one? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,721 #24 Posted October 6, 2019 Do an orderly check of the system as ED suggested. As you go along you will find out what works and what is Questionable, we will then diagnose the things that are in question. Some times it can be as simple as a bed cable or connection. We hate to see someone buy parts the didn't actually need. Most parts you could need can be found at a good auto parts store or Tractor Supply. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyJam 516 #25 Posted October 6, 2019 @Steve Santospago Things will work out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites