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Stephen Santospago

Hi, I'm new to wheel horse.I have a b-80 that will not start. I installed a new battery and still nothing at all. I used it last about a month ago and there weren't any problems and now all of a sudden I'm not getting anything. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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rjg854

:WRS: @Stephen Santospago I'm not that familiar with a B-80, but, have you checked any safety switches that might be on your tractor?  Is the PTO disengaged? 

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Ed Kennell

Is the PTO disengaged?    PTO, seat, and clutch pedal safety switches can prevent power from getting to the solenoid and starter.

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Ed Kennell

Randy, you're :rolleyes: too quick.

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ebinmaine

Also be sure to have clean ground connections

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JimmyJam
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Check for good ground connections and no broken wires.

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JimmyJam

@Ed Kennell If his coil was original and old would that make a difference if it wouldn’t start?

Ignition switch problem?

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953 nut

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If you place an old screw driver across the two large posts of the solenoid will the starter turn over? Image result for garden tractor solenoid

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Ed Kennell
8 minutes ago, JimmyJam said:

@Ed Kennell If his coil was original and old would that make a difference if it wouldn’t start?

Ignition switch problem?

A bad coil could prevent it from starting, but would not prevent the starter from turning the engine overl

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Stephen Santospago

Yeah I made sure the PTO clutch was not engaged and I had the clutch pedal pushed down. Thank you for advice!

 

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JimmyJam
2 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

A bad coil could prevent it from starting, but would not prevent the starter from turning the engine overl

So a bad coil would do what? Try to start?

should he replace the coil? He mentioned that it does nothing.

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JimmyJam

Ignition switch??? I am reaching for straws.

Anyone have thoughts?

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ebinmaine
1 minute ago, Stephen Santospago said:

Yeah I made sure the PTO clutch was not engaged and I had the clutch pedal pushed down. Thank you for advice!

 

If you have taken those steps and you are sure those switches were disengaged appropriately then you will need to get into some diagnostics.

 

Do you have a DVOM or a test light?

It would be best to have a meter that would check continuity.

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The Tool Crib

:text-welcomeconfetti:to the greatest tractor

site on the planet we call  :rs:  !!!

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Ed Kennell
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15 minutes ago, Stephen Santospago said:

Yeah I made sure the PTO clutch was not engaged and I had the clutch pedal pushed down. Thank you for advice!

 

OK, so you have checked the easy stuff.  Now, failure of any device in the starting circuit  or a break in any connection of these devices in the starting circuit can cause it to not turn over. 

  These devices include:

the battery

the ignition switch

the safety switches

the solenoid

the starter.

 

Eliminate  all of these devices except the starter by jumping +12V directly to the starter post to see if it will turn over.

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Stephen Santospago
41 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

If you have taken those steps and you are sure those switches were disengaged appropriately then you will need to get into some diagnostics.

 

Do you have a DVOM or a test light?

It would be best to have a meter that would check continuity.

 

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Stephen Santospago

No my friend does though and it's time to stop over. Thank you very much I will laugh I'll let you know how it works out.

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Stephen Santospago
31 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

OK, so you have checked the easy stuff.  Now, failure of any device in the starting circuit  or a break in any connection of these devices in the starting circuit can cause it to not turn over. 

  These devices include:

the battery

the ignition switch

the safety switches

the solenoid

the starter.

 

Eliminate  all of these devices except the starter by jumping +12V directly to the starter post to see if it will turn over.

 

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Stephen Santospago

Thank you Ed, I will check all those items you mentioned. Very helpful really appreciate it! I will let you know how it works out. Thanks again

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JimmyJam

Ignition switch may be the problem if it’s not the solenoid. I can’t seem to remember the last time I had to buy an ignition switch or solenoid.

Suggestion guys and gals?

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Stephen Santospago
1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

:WRS:

If you place an old screw driver across the two large posts of the solenoid will the starter turn over? Image result for garden tractor solenoid

533320581_1electrical.jpg.ac7cf9ed1b5cdffa72e5c4ec9edaf4f7.jpg

 

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Stephen Santospago

Thank you 953 nut, if the solenoid is bad would you have any idea where I could get a new one?

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953 nut

Do an orderly check of the system as ED suggested. As you go along you will find out what works and what is Questionable, we will then diagnose the things that are in question. Some times it can be as simple as a bed cable or connection. We hate to see someone buy parts the didn't actually need.

Most parts you could need can be found at a good auto parts store or Tractor Supply.

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JimmyJam

@Steve Santospago 

Things will work out!

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