Can I ask a dumb Question?

[RickyMayhew 37]

702 with Kohler k161s what size allen wrench fits the oil drain plug. I tried everyone i have, no luck. New to Wheel Horse. 

Edited August 12, 2019 by RickyMayhew

[peter lena 9,279]

i think its either  3/8"  or 1/4" , pete

[pfrederi 18,689]

Transmission Drain is 1/4"

[The Tuul Crib 7,339]

I use a plumbing tool that is at a 90%

It gives great leverage!

[pacer 3,177]

Make sure you clean out the hex recess really good to make sure the Allen seats all the way in, these things can sometimes get really stuck and you want to make sure it doesnt slip!

[WHX?? 51,778]

Carefully raise the front of the  tractor up there is a cup or so of oil ahead of the "hump". Let us know what comes out to see if you need to flush or not.

[squonk 43,843]

 Guys I believe he might talking about the engine oil drain. My 701 had a hex plug in the block. I think it was still 1/4"

[stevasaurus 23,281]

If that is the case Mike...he may want to put in some pipe to make it like the rest of our 702s. 

[pacer 3,177]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

t talking about the engine oil drain

The OP wasnt asking a dumb question -- but some of us were answering it rather dumbly without REALLY reading it!!

[pacer 3,177]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

t talking about the engine oil drain

The OP wasnt asking a dumb question -- but some of us were answering it rather dumbly without REALLY reading it!!

[RickyMayhew 37]

yes engine oil plug Thank you somuch

Edited August 12, 2019 by RickyMayhew

[squonk 43,843]

Funny engine drain story. I replaced the engine in my 1267. I wanted to change the oil before the Steam Pageant. I looked and no drain pipe out the left side. Hmmm I can't believe I didn't put a pipe on it Oh Well ordered a 3/8" brass street elbow a pipe and cap. Go to put it in and it has an old oil level sensor in the block. Take it out and it's 1/2 "  pipe. Go back to the store and get a bushing and finish up.

 

Sitting at the show I look over at the tractor and there is a 3/8 square head plug on the right side of the engine already!   

[RickyMayhew 37]

the engine just turned over, got compression? but do not see piston moving.? is that possible I am new at this. shoots out of the carb. and muffler

Edited August 12, 2019 by RickyMayhew

[RickyMayhew 37]

This is the oil drain

[RickyMayhew 37]

I believe its stripped someone trued to take it off with a punch looks like.

[WHNJ701 4,165]

just use a vise grip to get it out and get s new replacement plug

[lynnmor 7,824]

If the vice grip doesn't work, you can make a tool from an allen wrench one size larger, just grind it so that the tip tapers down to the original size.  Cut off the other leg and then use it like a punch, hammering it in the knackered hole, then turn out the plug with it.

[rjg854 12,209]

I just had that same problem, and @squonk let me borrow his socket easy outs. Easy peasy !!

[pacer 3,177]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

t talking about the engine oil drain

The OP wasnt asking a dumb question -- but some of us were answering it rather dumbly without REALLY reading it!!

[953 nut 60,072]

12 hours ago, RickyMayhew said:

the engine just turned over, got compression? but do not see piston moving.? is that possible I am new at this. shoots out of the carb. and muffler

The spark plug is not directly under the spark plug hole so you wouldn't see the piston move with the head on the engine. If you have compression indication coming out of the carburetor the intake valve may be stuck open.

[Pullstart 66,826]

 but the good news is that a head gasket is cheap and it might be all the parts you need to unstick the valve!  That, and some elbow grease, and patience!

[peter lena 9,279]

now that i know what you are trying to do, get a 6" PIPE WRENCH ,solidly secure the tightening ring, maybe with  channel lock pliers so that the bite or grip on the plug is solid, NO BOUNCE OR MOVEMENT, now use a 3 lb hammer to drive against the back of the wrench. making the wrench bite and the solid drive against it , will make that plug move. when you get it out , go to the hardware store  and get the same size plug, with EXTERNAL  DRIVE, so you don,t repeat the problem , pete

[WHX?? 51,778]

Or if you get the plug out re-pipe with nipples and a cap as Steve suggested. Another suggestion might be to drill the plug through and use standard easy outs. Might get a little messy but??  Sorry about the transmission confusion Ricky I just naturally thought that as you should be checking that too on this girl. I have never seen a engine with a hex drain plug like you or Mike has had.