Chris689 179 #25751 Posted Sunday at 07:23 PM @peter lena thank you for posting that link. So I think I’m actually going to go this route with the C120 as well. I saw in the post that you mentioned Marvel and Kroil. I have a ton of Marvel in my cabinet. Would that be something good to start with then on a more frequent and light basis move over to Kroil? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 20,228 #25752 Posted Sunday at 07:27 PM (edited) 23 hours ago, Thor27 said: Nice set up. Can you please show a pic of the other side? Like to see belt routing. Thank you. Belt routing note how it goes around the PTO Hoop. also note you have to cut away some of the deck reinforcement plate to clear the belt. Edited Sunday at 07:28 PM by pfrederi 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,846 #25753 Posted Sunday at 07:37 PM @Chris689 you could try that , marvel mystery is good also cheap , compared to kroil , but kroil is in a totally different class of frozen / rusted penetration , basic , how easily does the penetrant work , creep ? start to darken color base ? thats what you want , its the sign that its working , go very slowly on that stage , let it transition itself , then very slowly , attempt clean out / off . personally hand work on that till its much cleaner / clear , then a 6" electric palm buffer , car cleaner wax , go easy on it , done a lot of that . if it comes out , its very deep , worth the experiment , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 45,701 #25754 Posted Sunday at 07:46 PM On 4/18/2026 at 2:06 PM, pfrederi said: Got the 48 all hooked up Paul, how much of the deck sticks out beyond the support frame on the discharge side. I use my 48 to mow as best as I can under the fence lines. The front mount would be much easier to swing the deck under the wire after passing a post. I have a wire guide that lifts the wire over the deck. I may have to look for a front mount or make a narrow one for fence mowing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,846 #25755 Posted Sunday at 07:52 PM @pfrederi just curious , how easily does that front mower deck move by hand ,? have always wanted to have one of those set ups . pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 20,228 #25756 Posted Sunday at 08:00 PM 9 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said: Paul, how much of the deck sticks out beyond the support frame on the discharge side. I use my 48 to mow as best as I can under the fence lines. The front mount would be much easier to swing the deck under the wire after passing a post. I have a wire guide that lifts the wire over the deck. I may have to look for a front mount or make a narrow one for fence mowing. I do get under a fence but the lower wire is 12-14" above ground. The rods that carry the back wheels are the highest thing and are pretty close to the edge of the cut... but if you cut from both sides it may make it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 20,228 #25757 Posted Sunday at 08:01 PM 7 minutes ago, peter lena said: @pfrederi just curious , how easily does that front mower deck move by hand ,? have always wanted to have one of those set ups . pete I don't think there is any more resistance and a normal deck setup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 45,701 #25758 Posted Monday at 12:43 AM e Delivered the 314A to a new owner today. The young lady was in dire need of a tractor to do the first mowing. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris689 179 #25759 Posted Monday at 01:48 AM @peter lena awesome thank you for all the insight I really appreciate it. Once the 10-8 is back up I’m gonna turn my focus to the paint on the 120. Thank you again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor27 864 #25760 Posted Monday at 04:12 AM @pfrederi Paul, Thank you! I found the center mule for mine today because of your picture. The pulley was robbed off it so it didn't stand out. I've never seen it assembled, but should soon... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 20,228 #25761 Posted Monday at 12:35 PM 8 hours ago, Thor27 said: @pfrederi Paul, Thank you! I found the center mule for mine today because of your picture. The pulley was robbed off it so it didn't stand out. I've never seen it assembled, but should soon... The V pulley on the spring loaded arm is supposed to be taken from your front tachmatic mule drive 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor27 864 #25762 Posted yesterday at 12:01 AM That makes sense, thank you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 2,538 #25763 Posted 11 hours ago (edited) Took hydro foot control off and replaced with steering column controls on the 520H. So much nicer I can actually relax now cruising up and down the happy hills of home. The more I operate this mochine the more I like it. Edited 11 hours ago by sqrlgtr 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 17,781 #25764 Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, sqrlgtr said: Took hydro foot control off and replaced with steering column controls on the 520H. Those foot controllers are sought after, so you can probably find a new home for it easily. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,010 #25765 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, kpinnc said: Those foot controllers are sought after, so you can probably find a new home for it easily. Yes! @sqrlgtr , I have been very tempted to adapt that to a Sunstrand and would be interested if you would like to part with it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 2,538 #25766 Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, kpinnc said: Those foot controllers are sought after, so you can probably find a new home for it easily. 1 hour ago, ineedanother said: Yes! @sqrlgtr , I have been very tempted to adapt that to a Sunstrand and would be interested if you would like to part with it! @Easton Rich has already traded me out of it. I may regret it but I really like the control I have with the steering column control on these hills around here . I did notice today while taking it apart, there was a spring missing (I think) that pulled cam control back into a v shaped piece and returned foot control back to neutral. I might have liked it better if I had tried a spring on there, the way it was it would return to neutral on its on in the flats but I would have to use my heel going down steeper grades to get it to hold back and it just didn't work out well that way. After I got everything adjusted today on the steering column control it works perfect, no creep forwar/backward and foot brake works like it should returning cam control back to neutral when you mash it., and this thing will fly by far fastest Wheel Horse I've ever had. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,010 #25767 Posted 7 hours ago 17 minutes ago, sqrlgtr said: @Easton Rich has already traded me out of it. I may regret it but I really like the control I have with the steering column control on these hills around here . I did notice today while taking it apart, there was a spring missing (I think) that pulled cam control back into a v shaped piece and returned foot control back to neutral. I might have liked it better if I had tried a spring on there, the way it was it would return to neutral on its on in the flats but I would have to use my heel going down steeper grades to get it to hold back and it just didn't work out well that way. After I got everything adjusted today on the steering column control it works perfect, no creep forwar/backward and foot brake works like it should returning cam control back to neutral when you mash it., and this thing will fly by far fastest Wheel Horse I've ever had. NIce! I hope that works for you. I need to make a decision about my FEL, auto has to have a foot control or I move the loader onto a 8-speed without the L/S differential and electric clutch. I don't seem to have enough hands and arms to not have a foot control for direction. Kind of hate to do that since my 165 is the tilling machine but we'll see. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 2,538 #25768 Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, ineedanother said: NIce! I hope that works for you. I need to make a decision about my FEL, auto has to have a foot control or I move the loader onto a 8-speed without the L/S differential and electric clutch. I don't seem to have enough hands and arms to not have a foot control for direction. Kind of hate to do that since my 165 is the tilling machine but we'll see. Yeah I can see foot control being a big benefit with FEL and maybe dozer blade. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 78,195 #25769 Posted 7 hours ago 28 minutes ago, ineedanother said: NIce! I hope that works for you. I need to make a decision about my FEL, auto has to have a foot control or I move the loader onto a 8-speed without the L/S differential and electric clutch. I don't seem to have enough hands and arms to not have a foot control for direction. Kind of hate to do that since my 165 is the tilling machine but we'll see. Solution: Another tractor. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,010 #25770 Posted 6 hours ago 47 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Solution: Another tractor. That's on the table 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 16,245 #25771 Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, sqrlgtr said: I would have to use my heel going down steeper grades to get it to hold back Yep, side effect of having acceleration valves--the hydro doesn’t “lock up” until there is sufficient pressure. That’s close to walking speed in a “free wheeling in neutral” hydro motor . It took me a while to get used to going down hills at a good clip to stay locked up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 2,538 #25772 Posted 5 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Handy Don said: Yep, side effect of having acceleration valves--the hydro doesn’t “lock up” until there is sufficient pressure. That’s close to walking speed in a “free wheeling in neutral” hydro motor . It took me a while to get used to going down hills at a good clip to stay locked up. Don, it doesn't do that now that I got everything put back original. After putting everything back original it will stay at whatever speed I set it to going downhill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineedanother 2,010 #25773 Posted 5 hours ago Ordered axle seals for the 312-8 the other day and needed to check the outer bearings just to know what I'm up against. Pulled the rear weights and wheels, bearings are good. Flipped the tow receiver to get more ground clearance there and decided to go ahead and replace the fuel line while I had it up on jack stands. All is good. I'll replace the left seal when it gets here and this one will be back in service. Great machine, one of my favorites! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 17,781 #25774 Posted 4 hours ago On 4/19/2026 at 3:23 PM, Chris689 said: Kroil I personally belive Kroil is the best penetrating lube on the market. It's expensive, but worth every penny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites