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Hello everyone.  Attached pictures of my new toy.  Was told it ran when it was parked about a year and a half ago but can't get it started. The ignition switch does NOT crank the starter either.  I turned the key on and used jumper cables to the starter solenoid to ensure it turns over and check for spark.  It does not have spark, but it does turn over.  To me, it seems like a safety switch is on or something shorted out?  I did read a post about checking the points but have not done that yet.

 

It is a D180, but I don't know the year.  Model# is 1-0612 Serial# 120944 Anyone know what year it is?  Kohler Engine serial# is 7031032 but model# for engine is not there - wore off.  It has 3 point hitch and rear PTO as well.

 

It looks like the previous owner replaced the original fuel pump with an externally mounted electric fuel pump.  See pictures below.  Is this a common practice?

 

They also moved the starter solenoid to the outside - suppose just to get easier access?

 

The other thing I don't understand is the PTO lever on the left side, as you are sitting on it, does not work at all.  It just spins around.  The linkage from the lever to wherever it went was removed.  Not sure why.  I'm thinking they only used the loader, since the owner did not have any attachments other than the loader.  The previous owner also removed the grille in order to put the pump on for powering the loader.

 

I was told "everything on the tractor works, it just doesn't move forward or backward.  It moves a little but then it stops moving."  before I bought it, so wasn't expecting it to drive right away.  It does roll a lot harder than I think it should.  The bypass screw is froze.  We can't turn it at all.  I included a picture of it looking down from inside the engine compartment.  I'm assuming it's  froze in the "closed" position since it's hard to roll and was probably parked running.  Any ideas on how to "unfreeze" it?

 

I don't think I paid too much for it.  Original price was $1300, offered $800 and it was accepted.  I figure worse case, I could part it out and make that or more.  Did I pay too much?

 

Any help on the model year or other things I listed above are greatly appreciated.  Unfortunately, I am keeping it at my father-in-law's, 250 miles away, because I have no room in my garage. So can't run out and try things.  Just want to accumulate ideas and manuals so next time I go to his place I have a plan of attack.

My son and I just started out doing this, so we still need to acquire a lot of knowledge.

Thanks.

 

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That last picture is the bypass valve looking down into the engine compartment.

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roadapples

With loader, three point, and rear PTO you stole it.:handgestures-thumbupright:

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953 nut

:WRS:   You have a 1975 D, looks great, as @roadapples said, you didn't even pay for the loader, the :wh: was free. When you are faced with an electrical problem the first step is to clean and tighten ALL connectors. The manual will help you see what has been changed over the years and help with wiring.

 

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elliot ness

You got a good deal. nice D,the model 10 Johnson is a good sm.  loader, the D will handle it with ease.:text-bravo:

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pfrederi

There is a safety switch related tot eh PTO lever on the left side it will not  let the engine crank or fire if it the PTO is not disengaged.  The pump for the loader usually is run off the PTO so the PTO lever would have had to be functional for the  loader to work. Look for a button type safety switch on against the PTO linkage under the hood near the dash panel. Fuel pump was originally a pulse job...many failed and electric is a good cheap replacement

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pfrederi

Pictures of PTO safety switch First 2 show PTO off. Switch is depressed tractor should start.  Third picture (blurry) PTO engaged switch not depressed will not start

 

Last pic shows whole PTO arm..

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pacer

As others said "you stole it!" Geez, that is a nice looking tractor! (course I'm a bit partial to the "big D's" I have 4 of them...)

 

As mentioned check for a safety switch problem, If in doubt on one, just temporarily jumper it. Rig up a test light or meter to the coil and start wiggling wires etc. Obviously the seat switch needs to be checked since there isnt a seat! Dont be surprised if the switches are already jumpered, they can be such a pain - Ive bypassed all of mine or rermoved them

 

My first thought on spark fire is an all too familiar thing that happens to points after sitting for an extended time, they will get a "glaze" on them. Solution is simple, get a small piece fine grit sand paper, fold it and drag it through the points rubbing off the glaze. And fortunately the points are easily accessible on your engine just under the air cleaner.

 

Electric fuel pumps are a very good thing to have, I have one on all my D's.

 

Now, the biggie - the transmission! That could be a real problem, the Sundstrands (and the steering) are the biggest problem with the D's and I really dont have any pointers on them (all mine work very well) Hopefully after you get it running we can tell more about it...

 

Again, really nice looking tractor!

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BMW1

pfrederi, this is all that is left of the PTO linkage

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BMW1

pfrederi, This is a picture of the pump for the loader.  Previous owner removed grille to make room for it.  I just realized the muffler must be missing from that side.  Isn't that right where the muffler should be for that side? That would explain the pipe I saw connecting the two exhaust manifolds and then to the muffler on the other side but was in a hurry and forgot about it.  Is it common to mount pump like that?  Seems like there should be a better way to do it? I knew it would be work when I got it.  I don't mind, my son and I will get to learn all kinds of new things and we will learn patience!!

 

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pfrederi

Sent you some pic by PM.  Never saw a mount like that. The pulley he is using is really for the Rear PTO.  Most loader pumps run off the front sheeve.

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