Is this supposed to look like this?

[semper5 43]

Put on my 48" mower deck today, and the thing just wouldn't do its thing. I removed the PTO and this is what I found. Ain't there supposed to be grippy stuff on here?

[wallfish 20,014]

Clutch pad material is supposed to be on the engine side of the PTO and it contacts the shiney section on that part.

Can you post a pic of the engine side?

Edited May 1, 2016 by wallfish

[semper5 43]

I could, but I'm done for the night. The engine side is just as shiny.

[RedRanger 1,470]

I'm no expert, but I believe there should be a pad material of some sort in there.

Looks like you need a new clutch.

[wallfish 20,014]

About $75 on epay

Or you can re-line it with new material

 

[Aldon 4,832]

Not an expert but have changed a couple similar.

 

There should be friction material on the disc that's fastened to the crank. The part in pic should be metal only and flat. So worn but should be useable.

 

It's like car brakes. Once you wear off the material and start losing friction and have to add leverage to manual PTO, You're friction was the rivets that held the friction material. Once you see rivets it's time to replace.

 

Like automotive brakes, it's ideal when you replace the material, if it's flat to flat mating surface. but if you have to replace the friction disc, then it will wear to same profile eventually.

[squonk 46,750]

Looks like you can see some grooves starting from the rivets.

[semper5 43]

Ok, sounds good. Any idea where I can get friction? I iwll call the Toro dealer in the morning, but will consider price-friendly internet companies.

 

Also, lots of discussion I've seen on the internets machine about not using rivets, and instead using J-B Weld and other adhesives to fasten the friction pad to the crank-side. What are some inputs about that?

[wallfish 20,014]

17 minutes ago, semper5 said:

Ok, sounds good. Any idea where I can get friction?

Click on that link posted earlier

Glue/expoxy it.

Try posting a wanted ad on here for a used one

[semper5 43]

21 minutes ago, wallfish said:

Click on that link posted earlier

Glue/expoxy it.

Try posting a wanted ad on here for a used one

I will take a pad of friction material, but I don''t have a part number for it. And I can't find a link posted earlier... but Im old, its early, and I ain't had enough coffee yet.

[semper5 43]

Well, looks like it will be easier for me to just go get a pad from http://www.steinertractor.com/. Lucky for me, they around the corner. But, they don't carry Wheelhorse stuff, so I will be getting a JDS605, which according to the Google machine, is the same dimensions for my C145. 

 

Thanks for your help all, and I will be using J-B weld.

 

[wallfish 20,014]

57 minutes ago, semper5 said:

And I can't find a link posted earlier

Link is below

Just click on the words  "Reply to C-120 PTO Clutch Re-line / Re-build

A member already posted a good tutorial on what he did to repair his

 

[semper5 43]

Well, I'll be...

 

Fancy!!

[CasualObserver 3,416]

Might also want to check your engaged tension after you replace it. As it wore down, the tension relaxed allowing it to slip more and wear out faster and faster.

[semper5 43]

How much tension is needed? I thought I jhad enough by moving the trunion, but I have realized I can have it so tight that the engine shifts slightly to the rear. In addition, adjusting things to what I thought was good tension turns out to not move those blades very much. I am figuring on needing to address belt tension via the mule, and PTO tension via the trunion.

 

(Liver and trunions anyone?)