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6 SPEED #5060 10 pinion L/S Trans rebuild

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Racinbob

This is going to be a well followed thread by a lot of folks here Steve. Your videos are great. Now that i have the basic knowledge of the 3 speeds it will really help in understanding the 6 speeds. I'm looking forward to learning more from you.

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Martin

just watched the differential video, Steve. nicely done. i like the fact that you didn't edit it in anyway, it shows us through your work what to look out for and what problems we may come across while assembling. 

going to watch the others now!!

 

so does this mean that you have now joined the hi/lo rebuilders club?

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racinfool40

Great Vids Steve!!!!..Told ya they wern't to Bad!!!!...

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r356c

These videos are going to keep a lot of Wheel Horses from being sent to the glue factory.

 

If anyone needs to open a transmission, they will find these very informative. Nice work!

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stevasaurus

These are more designed for the guys doing it the first time...not so much for the guys that have done them before.  I just know that some members have been looking for videos involving the hi/low mechanism...while not the same as an 8 speed...the principle is the same and will work.  r356c, I hope you are right and it gives someone the confidence to tackle these transmissions and fix them...rather then just melt them down.  It really is pretty simple to fix up and give a horse another 40 years.

 

This is what is crazy...if you add up the minutes that I spent doing the videos...it comes to just over 40 minutes to rebuild this trans.  Without the camera and the explanations, this can be done in about 20 to 30 minutes.  You do not need any special tools and fixing this horse costs like $65 and you got a clean, good trans.  I replaced the outer axle bearings, all the seals, the trans gasket, the one axle gear and picked up an input pulley, a new dog point set screw, and new nuts on the differential bolts.  A definite feel good. :)

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stevasaurus

I think that everyone should get a chance to play with the detente balls and spring...push those things together and try to get a shaft by them...while sliding out an Allen wrench and keeping the setup together.  :bow-blue::)

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Racinbob

And chasing one of the little balls across the garage floor trying to stop it before it finds the exact geographic center of the truck parked in there.

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pfrederi

And chasing one of the little balls across the garage floor trying to stop it before it finds the exact geographic center of the truck parked in there.

 

 

I bought 100 ball bearings from McMaster  I don't even bother to look for the stupid little detent balls when they shoot out and roll away!!! :grin:

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groundhog47

:handgestures-thumbup: Excellent videos, Steve, hope they will be  pinned in trans.   :handgestures-salute:

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dclarke

Excellent thread, Steve. Thanks!

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Ed Kennell

Thanks Steve..I wouldn't even think about opening a tranny, but after watching your tutorial videos, I think I'm ready to try it.

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JC 1965

Great videos Steve. Very informative and you know they say a pic is worth a thousand words but a video is worth much more. I have a question, do you use any kind of sealant on the trans gasket ?  Thank you for the taking the time to make and share these videos. Many of us will benefit from them.    :thumbs2:

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stevasaurus

Jerry, I do not use any gasket sealer on the trans gasket...they have been OK for me so far.  :)

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bob's toy

Great videos, not sure if i need to open mine up or not. I am a heavy  Equipment mechanic for Mustang Cat here in Houston and even without the video I thing I could do one easily. But sure is nice to see one done so I don't make a mess of things..My question is, where can we get parts? I have a 1967 1267 machine that I am doing a complete frame up restore and was going to crack it open to see if it needed anything. The problem being if it needed something where to get the parts...As always so glad to be a supporter of a GREAT forum..

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Racinbob

You might as well open her up. If it needs something you would have to open it anyways and checking it out is a good idea. Parts can be found right here. Racinfool40 has some parts as well as others. Just given a shout and I'm sure you'll find them. :)

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MarkS

I am currently rebuilding a c125. What is used as a seal between each side of the transmission if anything. I ask because i am concerned that I may have blown water in while pressure washing it. Thanks

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stevasaurus

The gasket is Wheel Horse # 3912.  TORO dealer has them for about $6.00.  :)

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520hC-120

Thanks for the vids they are very informational me and my dad might split it open to check it out soon taking it out might be a pain though, thanks for the feedback:)

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DeepH2O

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread. I’m in process of opening up my 8 speed from a 1989 312-8. I’m to the point of removing half the case, but it doesn’t want to let go. Something internally is keeping it from coming apart? Amy ideas before I get a little rougher with it? I’ll attach pics. I feel like it may be something on the shifter end of the case. I cleaned both shafts of any paint or nuts. Any help is appreciated. 

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DeepH2O

Nevermind. I think I see issue. The shift lever is still installed. I called myself looking for way to remove it and didn’t see anything. Well, upon further investigation, I believe I see problem. Apparently, there’s supposed to be a locking nut and a set screw here but I guess somewhere down the line dad must’ve broken. DANG!! Now I’ve got a whole other problem!!

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DeepH2O

Crisis diverted! Haha. Was able to weld nut onto stub and back it out. New one ordered!

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Handy Don
6 hours ago, DeepH2O said:

Crisis diverted! Haha. Was able to weld nut onto stub and back it out. New one ordered!

Got bit by a broken dog point! You are on the road now!

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DeepH2O
On 7/16/2014 at 5:38 PM, stevasaurus said:

These are more designed for the guys doing it the first time...not so much for the guys that have done them before.  I just know that some members have been looking for videos involving the hi/low mechanism...while not the same as an 8 speed...the principle is the same and will work.  r356c, I hope you are right and it gives someone the confidence to tackle these transmissions and fix them...rather then just melt them down.  It really is pretty simple to fix up and give a horse another 40 years.

 

This is what is crazy...if you add up the minutes that I spent doing the videos...it comes to just over 40 minutes to rebuild this trans.  Without the camera and the explanations, this can be done in about 20 to 30 minutes.  You do not need any special tools and fixing this horse costs like $65 and you got a clean, good trans.  I replaced the outer axle bearings, all the seals, the trans gasket, the one axle gear and picked up an input pulley, a new dog point set screw, and new nuts on the differential bolts.  A definite feel good. :)

I can’t tell you how much I appreciate these videos. Although, I was telling someone earlier, if you buy a piece of equipment nowadays, you get a user manual and they say if something is wrong, bring it to a certified repair facility. I loved it when you bought a piece of equipment and you got a user manual, parts manual, and a repair manual!! 
 

This forum continues to be priceless to me on rebuilding/restoring my link to my grandfathers/dad. I love every single minute I’m working and learning something new about my Horse!! 

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ri702bill
On 7/17/2014 at 11:41 AM, stevasaurus said:

I think that everyone should get a chance to play with the detente balls and spring...push those things together and try to get a shaft by them...while sliding out an Allen wrench and keeping the setup together.  :bow-blue::)

I opened up a 1965 3 speed a while back - I found it easier to use a flat blade screwdriver to depress the balls/ /spring and allow the shift fork shaft to slide by.

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