Dave D. 10 #1 Posted yesterday at 08:23 PM Years ago, I saved an old Wheel Horse from a scrap pile for $40. Finally looking at getting it together now. I'm finishing up on my old Ariens Garden Tractor steering and then I'll get on the old Wheel Horse. It's in the shipping container and when it gets a little cooler, I'll pull it out for some better pictures. Looking forward to getting some information on this. Others have suggested it is a 1961 Suburban 551 from the pictures. Thanks, Dave No engine. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave D. 10 #2 Posted 23 hours ago Thinking I'll just get it running with a Predator 212cc engine and enjoy it. Planning to do a trans flush and see what it looks like in there. Someone has cut off the rod for the clutch pedal. It's there just cut. Got to figure how to align it and weld it back. Hunting up all the pieces in the shipping container. Looking forward to getting some great information on this cool little tractor. Dave 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 57,653 #3 Posted 18 hours ago Manuals should be in the files section. It should have had a electric start Tecumseh HH50 in it but a k91 is acceptable. Or a Briggs or predator. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave D. 10 #6 Posted 10 hours ago Thank you. Looking forward to getting this little tractor going. Been searching trhough the threads on flushing the transmission. Haven't seen many Wheel Horse tractors around here in NC. I love the history of the old equipment. The gear stick is missing the hardware to lock it in the tranny. Gotta make sure it's not down in there, The gears don't look too bad through the hole, but it's been sitting in the storage for 20 + years. I think it has the 5007 3-piece tranny? Digging into the transmission seems a little scary. Leaning towards a rolling restoration and not modifying anything, then maybe a restoration later. I'll get it out and take more pictures. Thanks for the welcome and encouragement. Been too hot to do much on it lately, but Fall is coming. Thanks, Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 47,808 #7 Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 551 has a 2 piece most likely a # 5007 Edited 9 hours ago by squonk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parsonsponyz 391 #8 Posted 9 hours ago You're starting with a nice tractor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave D. 10 #10 Posted 9 hours ago Thank you, I'll take some more pictures soon. Got to get all the parts together and start accessing it. Looking forward to some great information and advice on these little tractors. Thanks, Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 12,328 #11 Posted 8 hours ago @Dave D. With all the help and information here on Red Square I would not hesitate to take the transmission apart to fix it. A guy by the name of Jake Kuhn used to sell a bearing and gasket kit for it, I’m not sure if he still does? He’s out west, Michigan or Wisconsin I believe. @stevasaurus is our resident expert on those transmissions. He’s usually around here to help and answer any questions you may have. You can do it!! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 312-8 601 #12 Posted 8 hours ago Welcome to Red Square, where there's wealth of information available in both manuals and tribal knowledge. Gotta love a $40 Suburban with a $750 weight on the front! You got great bones there to start. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 20,405 #13 Posted 5 hours ago The original engine would've been a Kohler K91 but there were some made using a Clinton B1290. I would skip the Preditor engine and find a K91. Old stuff looks funny with a newer style engine on it. I'd also clean it up first and see if the patina is salvageable before just spray bombing it. Post some pics of the trans which will determine if it's a 551 or a 401. That original front weight is a rare item and worth more than the tractor itself is. Post wanted ads on here for the parts you're missing like engine, gas tank, belt guard heat shield, shifter etc. And look often on epay and FB market place 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave D. 10 #14 Posted 3 hours ago Thanks for the warm welcome. This is looking like a fun project. Found some more parts today out in the container. Dug around and found the fuel tank today. Dave 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 80,137 #15 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Dave D. said: Thanks for the warm welcome. This is looking like a fun project. Found some more parts today out in the container. Dug around and found the fuel tank today. Dave Oh man. Now ya done it. 'Round here when another vehicle is in the picture we all gotta know what it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave D. 10 #16 Posted 3 hours ago Ut Oh! I started something! I have a couple of old Military Jeeps I play around with. A 1953 M38A1 and a 1964 USMC M38A1. Have always loved old Jeeps and tractors. My dad was CO of 1st Hospital Company in DaNang Vietnam 1968 to 1969. I've installed the decals that he had on his Jeep in Vietnam. The Jeep like my dad had in Vietnam Dad in DaNang 1968 Giving rides. Dave 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 47,808 #17 Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, wallfish said: The original engine would've been a Kohler K91 but there were some made using a Clinton B1290. I would skip the Preditor engine and find a K91. Old stuff looks funny with a newer style engine on it. I'd also clean it up first and see if the patina is salvageable before just spray bombing it. Post some pics of the trans which will determine if it's a 551 or a 401. That original front weight is a rare item and worth more than the tractor itself is. Post wanted ads on here for the parts you're missing like engine, gas tank, belt guard heat shield, shifter etc. And look often on epay and FB market place You can tell by the bracing under the hood for the battery location and the rear plate where the trans mounts it's a 551. Would have come with the Tecky. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,788 #18 Posted 1 hour ago This will help. 5007 uni-drive rebuild. Welcome to Red Square !! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave D. 10 #19 Posted 1 hour ago Thanks, This is some interesting reading. I'm compling information. Cool little machines. Any clubs and experts in NC? This is starting to seem doable Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 57,653 #20 Posted 46 minutes ago 7 hours ago, Dan 312-8 said: a $750 weight on the front! Holy crap Dan I missed that! Yeah we are gonna need more pics of that. You might now know it Dave but we call those tombstones and highly sought after. All of 600 fer sure. Get us a good picture of lettering on front to see if it's real. I'm betting it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 57,653 #21 Posted 40 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Dave D. said: This is starting to seem doable Oh yeah real doable around here. We seen guys start out with alot less. 4 hours ago, wallfish said: original engine would've been a Kohler K91 You sure 'Fish ... i coulda swore 550/551 had a Techy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave D. 10 #22 Posted 35 minutes ago I will try to get in and move some stuff around and get some better pics of this tractor. When I got it the serial number was peeling off and I wrote it down and saved it, but now can't find it anywhere. Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 20,405 #23 Posted 11 minutes ago 24 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Oh yeah real doable around here. We seen guys start out with alot less. You sure 'Fish ... i coulda swore 550/551 had a Techy. You're right. I was thinking 401 at first because you can only see the angles in front of the rear tire BUT the frame of a 551 also does that. But who would want to put a Teccy on anything? I know Cas @formariz might have a spare H55 or two. I sold him one a while back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites