Racinbob 12,965 #1 Posted yesterday at 11:55 AM Most of you saw the recently posted AI generated video about the history of Wheel Horse. The inaccuracies were abundant and glaring. Having lived a stones throw from South Bend all my life I vividly remember the tremendous amount of manufacturing in the county with Oliver, Studebaker and many others as well as what Wheel Horse went through as it was happening. You hear a lot of conflicting stories about AMC, Munn and then Toro and what they did to Wheel Horse. I stumbled on to this one this morning and found it to be, by far, the most accurate of any I've seen. My awareness started in 1960 as a child but the memories are still there. Sit back and relax. This is just over an hour long but it kept me glued to the puter screen and brought back a lot of memories. The Brand That Big Box Stores Destroyed: The Fall of Wheel Horse I did catch a major error near the end. Since when was the LX420 the last of the models with any Wheel Horse heritage? It had zero. The last was the Classic GT aka 300 Series, aka 315-8, whatever you prefer to call them. Last year made, 2007. Also, many of you want to see the Ireland Road plant on an upcoming visit to the area. No, it doesn't look like this now but you will still recognize it. The picture they used when making that statement was the BACK of the plant. For many years the less faded paint under the Wheel Horse name was very visible. 5 3 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhondamack 1 #2 Posted 11 hours ago 17 hours ago, Racinbob said: Most of you saw the recently posted AI generated video about the history of Wheel Horse. The inaccuracies were abundant and glaring. Having lived a stones throw from South Bend all my life I vividly remember the tremendous amount of manufacturing in the county with Oliver, Studebaker and many others as well as what Wheel Horse went through as it was happening. You hear a lot of conflicting stories about AMC, Munn and then Toro and what they did to Wheel Horse. I stumbled on to this one this morning and found it to be, by far, the most accurate of any I've seen. My awareness started in 1960 as a child but the memories are still there. Sit back and relax. This is just over an hour long but it kept me glued to the puter screen and brought back a lot of memories. The Brand That Big Box Stores Destroyed: The Fall of Wheel Horse geometry dash 3d I did catch a major error near the end. Since when was the LX420 the last of the models with any Wheel Horse heritage? It had zero. The last was the Classic GT aka 300 Series, aka 315-8, whatever you prefer to call them. Last year made, 2007. Also, many of you want to see the Ireland Road plant on an upcoming visit to the area. No, it doesn't look like this now but you will still recognize it. The picture they used when making that statement was the BACK of the plant. For many years the less faded paint under the Wheel Horse name was very visible. Good video, mostly accurate with a few minor mistakes. One thing worth noting is that during the Toro takeover, they didn’t fundamentally change the Wheel Horse tractor design; they largely just added the Toro name to the decals. Toro often gets blamed for the decline of Wheel Horse, but the video does a good job explaining why many of the major, reliable tractor brands eventually faded. A big factor was the rise of zero-turn mowers, which shifted consumer attention toward faster, larger machines, especially among younger buyers. At the same time, stricter EPA safety and emissions regulations also played a role—those standards came from government requirements, not Toro. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 12,965 #3 Posted 6 hours ago Exactly. Sure, they had a hand in it but ultimately they did all the WH nuts a favor by keeping the same design as long as they did but sooner or later cost factors must be considered. I think the single thing that amazes most folks is when they find out I'm running a 70's deck on my 2005 and my 76 ran the 05 deck. Take the sheet metal off and they are the same tractor. Just ignore the wiring differences. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 69,961 #4 Posted 5 hours ago DJ Harrison pointed out to me, and I’m not too impressed with the use of my images and his video content. They are surely making profit off our content and the copyright claim forms to fill out are lengthy and involved. It’s kind of a weird feeling. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 66,088 #5 Posted 4 hours ago This is the same video that Karl @nylyon posted last month. Another "Rise and Fall" video was posted by @ACman a couple weeks back. There are two groups doing hack jobs on many brands, not just our beloved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 31,414 #6 Posted 4 hours ago When you do it, it's copyright infringement... when AI does it, it's copyright infringement. Let's see how the courts "charge" AI... This is bad and getting worse by the gigasecond... I don't use it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 66,088 #7 Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: gigasecond... A gigasecond, 1,000,000,000 seconds would work out to about 32 years, a nanosecond would be 1/1,000,000,000 of a second, I think that is what you were going for. Giga is a Billion, Nano is a Billionth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 31,414 #8 Posted 3 hours ago 55 minutes ago, 953 nut said: A gigasecond, 1,000,000,000 seconds would work out to about 32 years, a nanosecond would be 1/1,000,000,000 of a second, I think that is what you were going for. Giga is a Billion, Nano is a Billionth. Thx. Perhaps I should have consulted AI... not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MainelyWheelhorse 2,578 #9 Posted 1 hour ago (edited) It was not bad, it seems to give a decent overview for someone not super familiar with the history. The odd pronunciation of Cecil and other random words was a bit odd. The Dick Tracy narrator voice was a bit odd too. But overall an interesting story. Edited 1 hour ago by MainelyWheelhorse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites