Help with 520h rear lift cable

[jhillbergen 3]

My lift cable broke today at the end that threads into the trunion. The problem is that when it broke the cable recoiled (or something) and the remaining threaded portion got lodged into the raceway conduit in the curved portion.  I've pushed and pulled but the cable won't budge.  Does anyone know if there is a way to pull out the conduit for the lift cable without removing the transmission?  Have attached a few pics 

[Ed Kennell 45,863]

Could you make a flexible punch by threading a hand full of small nuts on a piece of wire and use that to drive out the obstruction?

 

Did you clamp on the cable with a vise grip and use a flat pry bar to pull on the vise grip?

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Ed Kennell

[953 nut 65,526]

Probably worth a call to Lowell to replace the conduit and cable.                    Gotta get a new cable anyway.

https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/toro-wheel-horse-lift-cable-tube-108144-lift-cable-hydro-transmission/

[Handy Don 16,359]

I can see why you’d like to have the tube out to work on it.

The tube is held in place by:

1. The clamp

2. The friction fit where it wedges into a stepped-diameter hole in the forward end of the transaxle housing

(The stepped diameter makes it very difficult to use a punch to catch the edge of the tube. It is possible, though, and I’ve done it.)

 

My first attempt would be to get some penetrant involved initially (both inside and outside the tube) and then a heavier lubricant inside. Following @Ed Kennell's thoughts, I’d look to using a tightly-coiled spring or other flexible but incompressible tool fed from the forward end. The tools used to prevent kinking when bending tubing come to mind.

If you can get a firm grip on the tube without crushing it (maybe with a smooth end of a drill bit that fills the inner diameter and then vise-grips?), wriggling with the penetrant and pulling rearward will eventually free it. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Handy Don

[ri702bill 11,968]

All good suggestions...

If all else fails, we may have to blast!!.... 

[jhillbergen 3]

Thanks for the suggestions.  I've decided to call it a day, and will give it another try tomorrow

[Ed Kennell 45,863]

25 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

 

If all else fails, we may have to blast!!.... 

Hmmm     A fuse, 4F powder and seal the end with JB Weld.   There she blows.

[Handy Don 16,359]

1 minute ago, jhillbergen said:

Thanks for the suggestions.  I've decided to call it a day, and will give it another try tomorrow

Viking Valhalla doesn’t close until 9:30!? 

(Former LeRoyan and ND graduate here)

[SylvanLakeWH 31,200]

3 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Hmmm     A fuse, 4F powder and seal the end with JB Weld.   There she blows.

In accordance with Redsquare rules, gonna need pictures...!!!

 

[c-series don 11,866]

I could be wrong, but I think the bolt hole in the picture goes right through into the transmission? If so it’s imperative that you do not get any dirt, grim or anything in that hole. 

[DLF 32]

I replace the tube on my 520-H when I got it.  Cables cost too much to try and used a rusted tube,

Lee1977

Edited 20 hours ago by DLF

[oliver2-44 11,426]

10 hours ago, jhillbergen said:

While you have the seat pan off temporarily plug that threaded hole (that goes into the transmission and give that 
Eaton transmission a good cleaning.  It helps them dissipate heat which helps extend their life.

Also give the area where the transmission control linkage on top a good gentle cleaning. 

[lynnmor 8,773]

7 hours ago, c-series don said:

I could be wrong, but I think the bolt hole in the picture goes right through into the transmission? If so it’s imperative that you do not get any dirt, grim or anything in that hole. 

The bolts on top of the transmission should never be removed till after a thorough cleaning, and then brush away debris as bolts are removed.  Wheel Horse suggests removing a bolt to aid filling the transmission but I always thought that they were asking for trouble.

[squonk 46,241]

10 hours ago, ri702bill said:

All good suggestions...

If all else fails, we may have to blast!!.... 

Blast first. Ask questions later! 

[jhillbergen 3]

3 hours ago, lynnmor said:

The bolts on top of the transmission should never be removed till after a thorough cleaning, and then brush away debris as bolts are removed.  Wheel Horse suggests removing a bolt to aid filling the transmission but I always thought that they were asking for trouble.

Thanks for the advise I didn"t realize that the holes went all the way through! Hope debris didn"t fall down in

[oliver2-44 11,426]

[jhillbergen 3]

Thought I'd give everyone an update.

Using the advise from Handy Don, I was able to put a drill bit into the end of the conduit and grab it with a pair of vise grips.

After a ten minute tug of war with my wheelhorse, I was able pull out the conduit (with the remaining cable still wedge inside).

 

A new conduit was ordered (along with a new lift cable) after I spent another 20 minutes farting around trying to get the wedged cable out.

Thanks for all of your suggestions

[ri702bill 11,968]

But the option of blasting did come to mind, right??? 

[R Scheer 512]

20 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

In accordance with Redsquare rules, gonna need pictures...!!!

 

This would deserve a video!  Preferably slow motion.