856: Facet fuel pump mounting help

[FLtractor 149]

Afternoon, 

 I cannot find any suitable mounting locations for this facet fuel pump on my 856. Any recommendations? Thought about coil boil, open side hole on frame near the exposed pulleys but awfully close. Thought zip tie and or hose clamp to front axel and extend ground to frame while running positive fuel pump wire to coil. 

[oliver2-44 11,332]

I suggest you look for a mounting place close to the bottom of the tank.  all those electric (and old mechanical ones) were good at pushing gas, not sucking a long distance from tank.

[FLtractor 149]

1 minute ago, oliver2-44 said:

I suggest you look for a mounting place close to the bottom of the tank.  all those electric (and old mechanical ones) were good at pushing gas, not sucking a long distance from tank.

Oh wow I didn’t think it could be mounted that far from carb and that high up.. I was recommended before to mount it low on tractor frame somewhere beneath carb 

[oliver2-44 11,332]

Low is good, but I've always heard closer to tank, and push not suck. 

Interested to see what others say.

[kpinnc 17,575]

Get you a couple brass elbows and you can mount it up front. I do suggest you use the included filter that comes with the pump. 

 

I made a small L shaped tab and used one oil pan bolt to secure mine on the Bronco. 

 

 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by kpinnc

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,459]

Took a screenshot from a YouTube video for you to look at @VinsRJ put his pump under the tank on his 857 project. That would be a much better spot. 

 

 

[peter lena 9,811]

@FLtractor  have my carbole electric  /  low pressure  pump , 2 - 3.5 psi ,mounted similar to @kpinnc   up front  , also have a fuel filter and  check valve there  , clear  fuel line  , so I can see standing fuel up to carb , also have a filter  at  tank flow start  , never had an issue with  fuel delivery . use stabil in all my fuels , add an ounce or 2 to every tank top off , instant starts , no debris in filters . replaced fuel lines , before adding sta bil , no debris at all since , its a good swap , pete

[FLtractor 149]

2 hours ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

Took a screenshot from a YouTube video for you to look at @VinsRJ put his pump under the tank on his 857 project. That would be a much better spot. 

 

 

Thank you. Do you happen to have the full video link as well? 

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,459]

1 hour ago, FLtractor said:

Thank you. Do you happen to have the full video link as well? 

 

https://youtu.be/ctTXESXH6_U?si=kqc7BOOCBbA60bxM

[FLtractor 149]

5 hours ago, oliver2-44 said:

I suggest you look for a mounting place close to the bottom of the tank.  all those electric (and old mechanical ones) were good at pushing gas, not sucking a long distance from tank.

Will look into bottom of tank 

[FLtractor 149]

4 hours ago, peter lena said:

@FLtractor  have my carbole electric  /  low pressure  pump , 2 - 3.5 psi ,mounted similar to @kpinnc   up front  , also have a fuel filter and  check valve there  , clear  fuel line  , so I can see standing fuel up to carb , also have a filter  at  tank flow start  , never had an issue with  fuel delivery . use stabil in all my fuels , add an ounce or 2 to every tank top off , instant starts , no debris in filters . replaced fuel lines , before adding sta bil , no debris at all since , its a good swap , pete

Will look into the filter, valve and using stabol 

[FLtractor 149]

1 hour ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

 

https://youtu.be/ctTXESXH6_U?si=kqc7BOOCBbA60bxM

Does RJvin still post or frequent this forum anymore? Wanted to ask him exactly how he screwed the fuel pump up into the tank straps or pan the tank sits in.. watched the video but with the spacing of the fuel pump mounting holes and the fuel tank pan … it doesn’t quite make sense where it was screwed up into

Edited 12 hours ago by FLtractor

[FLtractor 149]

5 hours ago, peter lena said:

@FLtractor  have my carbole electric  /  low pressure  pump , 2 - 3.5 psi ,mounted similar to @kpinnc   up front  , also have a fuel filter and  check valve there  , clear  fuel line  , so I can see standing fuel up to carb , also have a filter  at  tank flow start  , never had an issue with  fuel delivery . use stabil in all my fuels , add an ounce or 2 to every tank top off , instant starts , no debris in filters . replaced fuel lines , before adding sta bil , no debris at all since , its a good swap , pete

Have a picture of how it’s mounted? From front and behind perhaps? 

[FLtractor 149]

6 hours ago, kpinnc said:

Get you a couple brass elbows and you can mount it up front. I do suggest you use the included filter that comes with the pump. 

 

I made a small L shaped tab and used one oil pan bolt to secure mine on the Bronco. 

 

 

 

Do you happen to have a picture showing how it’s attached to the tractor frame? You just used one fuel pump bolt to hold it in place? What size brass fitting are they? 

[kpinnc 17,575]

3 hours ago, FLtractor said:

Do you happen to have a picture showing how it’s attached to the tractor frame? You just used one fuel pump bolt to hold it in place? What size brass fitting are they? 

 

I don't have pics but it was L shaped with 3 holes drilled: one for the oil pan bolt and two for the pump. 

 

Fittings are 1/4 barbed elbow and I think a 3/8 NPT street elbow. 

[Stan50 106]

@kpinnc That block off plate - did you use regular fuel pump gasket with that plate? I fabricated similar block off plate, they layin on the shelf with CarBole fuel pump, waiting for mechanical pump failure 

[kpinnc 17,575]

2 hours ago, Stan50 said:

That block off plate - did you use regular fuel pump gasket with that plate? I fabricated similar block off plate, they layin on the shelf with CarBole fuel pump, waiting for mechanical pump failure 

 

I just used gasket material and some silicone dressing just in case. 

 

But a regular fuel pump gasket will work just fine. 

[Retired Wrencher 6,532]

FLtractor:   The first is mounting second is wirier with fuse.  This is on the 856. Works fine so far two years now.

Edited 2 hours ago by Retired Wrencher

[FLtractor 149]

5 hours ago, kpinnc said:

 

I don't have pics but it was L shaped with 3 holes drilled: one for the oil pan bolt and two for the pump. 

 

Fittings are 1/4 barbed elbow and I think a 3/8 NPT street elbow. 

Interesting. What size bolts did you use inside the facet fuel pump mounting holes? 

[Retired Wrencher 6,532]

One more thing what model did you get =1 to 2 psi or different?

Edited 2 hours ago by Retired Wrencher

[FLtractor 149]

28 minutes ago, Retired Wrencher said:

FLtractor:   The first is mounting second is wirier with fuse.  This is on the 856. Works fine so far two years now.

So you used this hole here .. and you drilled a second hole into the support frame for other fuel pump bolt hole? 
went with #. 60245

given yours is on the other side of most I’ve seen.. do you have a picture of how you ran your fuel line from tank to fuel pump to carb? 
 

Edited 2 hours ago by FLtractor

[Retired Wrencher 6,532]

I used one bolt to the frame and second to the pump with steel with pre drilled holes in it. I do not  remember the name of the steel, it has multiple holes. I can take a picture of it today. That’s how I adapted it. Can paint it to blend it in with the rest of the car or just leave it. It’s a short piece anyway I’d say maybe about an inch and a half.

Edited 2 hours ago by Retired Wrencher

[peter lena 9,811]

@FL tractor  , 2- 3.5  psi  on pump  , no issues with that range , also get after  any / all related levers / linkage , cables , with  penetrating  lubrication , the easier it  moves / slides ,  the easier it works ,  just about every  lawn  anything I see is  caked with rust  , choke cables , sound like  a hacksaw blade on rust , what could that possibly  be? mine slide with ease , pete  

[FLtractor 149]

4 minutes ago, peter lena said:

@FL tractor  , 2- 3.5  psi  on pump  , no issues with that range , also get after  any / all related levers / linkage , cables , with  penetrating  lubrication , the easier it  moves / slides ,  the easier it works ,  just about every  lawn  anything I see is  caked with rust  , choke cables , sound like  a hacksaw blade on rust , what could that possibly  be? mine slide with ease , pete  

Any recommendations on which lubricant? Same as you use for the cable rasiing and lowering the hitch?