i hate wheel horse blowers

[horseman with no horse 56]

i spent probably 2 hours screaming at my c120 and no matter what i do i cant get traction. i have 10 or 12 inch wide turfs with 2 sets of wheel weights on it. and its atrocious. i dont have tire chains and im broke so i cant afford aggs. what can i do to increase traction? i probably have 90 pounds on each tire, its like the blower just makes the whole tractor useless. i couldnt even back up 10 inches its pitiful 

[WHX?? 54,155]

You don't need ags ... a set of chains on turfs will make a world of difference and weight ... never hurts but all the weight in the world will not help on sheet ice. 

Definitely sounds like you don't have it set up right. 

[horseman with no horse 56]

im not on ice, i can dig the snow its slipping in with my hands its so soft im gonna post a pic

 

[horseman with no horse 56]

my setup

[horseman with no horse 56]

15 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

 a set of chains on turfs will make a world of difference and weight ... 

ive heard great things about rubber chains, i have 23x 10.5 x 12 tires on the rear. where can i buy rubber chains?

[WHX?? 54,155]

What you need is a set of double link v bars. Your might have more trouble fitting any kind of chains with that battery rigamarole in the way. 

[horseman with no horse 56]

where would i buy a set of v bars for 23x8.5.12 tires? and how would i mount them? off the machine?

[horseman with no horse 56]

the battery tray is gonna probably be in the way i didnt think about that 

[Ed Kennell 44,386]

53 minutes ago, horseman with no horse said:

where would i buy a set of v bars for 23x8.5.12 tires? and how would i mount them? off the machine?

Peerless Chain 24x10x12 ATV Tire Chains, 22x11.00x8 Minimum Tire Size, 15 lb., 2-Pack at Tractor Supply Co

 

I also have a new set of 4 link McKay Vee Bars.   PM me if interested.

Edited 14 hours ago by Ed Kennell

[JimSraj 563]

You can mount the chains with the wheels on or off the tractor.  Either way, I’d suggest deflating the tires, fitting the chains so they are even in every way and connecting the inside connector first then the outside. You may want to do this more than once to get them good and snug and evenly spaced. Then reinflate. The chains should be held in place without “snubbers” with this method. Btw, 2 link chains are better than 4 link but any chains are going to be a big improvement. 
good luck. 
PS. It’s not the Wheel Horse or the blower. It’s just lack of traction. I’ve got a 312-8 with a blower running 23 - 8.5x 12 with 2 link chains and I walk through 12” of snow on grass ( with the skids down) or on the pavement (skids up) no problem. Usually in low range 3rd gear or 1st gear hi. 
You may need to move your battery tray set up. 

Edited 14 hours ago by JimSraj

[Racinbob 12,575]

You've got enough weight. You need chains. Often you can lower the blower to the ground/pavement and blow your way through. You need chains. That takes the weight off the front and effectively adds to the rear. Did I mention you need chains? 

[squonk 45,195]

Those tires are pretty much wore out tread wise. Get chains.

[Racinbob 12,575]

8 hours ago, horseman with no horse said:

ive heard great things about rubber chains, i have 23x 10.5 x 12 tires on the rear. where can i buy rubber chains?

 

Here's one place.

 

SoftClaw Rubber Tire Chains - Traction without damaging your surfaces

 

I have them on both my blade tractor and the blower tractor. I love them and find that in most cases are as good as steel. Some cases a bit better. I also need them because of an asphalt drive. I do quite a bit of dirt work in the summer. They are excellent for that too. With that being said, would I choose rubber if I didn't have the asphalt drive? No. If for no other reason the cost.

Edited 7 hours ago by Racinbob

[Achto 30,677]

Like stated above, tire chains are a key item for snow removal. If you don't have pavement that you are worried about, then go with regular chains not the rubber chains. You will be much happier. 

 

I'm running chains on my snow pusher with out added weight. Very seldom do I have an issue with traction.

 

[WHX?? 54,155]

13 hours ago, horseman with no horse said:

im broke

 Nothin to be ashamed of we've all been there so we get it. 

12 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

I also have a new set of 4 link McKay Vee Bars.   PM me if interested.

Bet I've got a set of chains you can have for shipping. They ain't much but but if you can't afford Ed Dog's. 

Bet the ranch others here have them they don't need. Chains are a regular in everyone's snow horse diet here. 

Edited 2 hours ago by WHX??

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,410]

I have chains laying around for 8.50 tires you can have for shipping as well. I bet @Pullstart has extras laying around too. Don't know how close you are to him. 

[oliver2-44 11,169]

Chains rubber or steel are the way to go.

But for no cost lower the rear tire press to 3-4 psi as mentioned above.

Also for the best additional low cost weight fill you tire fit rv antifreeze.

[WHX?? 54,155]

4 hours ago, Racinbob said:

choose rubber if I didn't have the asphalt drive? No. If for no other reason the cost.

Actually Bob that's not a bad price for rubber. Not a great deal more than steel. 

https://tirechainsonline.com/lawn-garden-chains/11-12-rims/23x10-5x12/#product-listing-container

1 hour ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

I bet @Pullstart has extras laying around too. Don't know how close you are to him. 

Bet he does too Mike. 

[midpack 1,098]

I had rubber chains, not very good on ice. Great on the flat driveway with no ice

[Pullstart 68,704]

2 hours ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

I have chains laying around for 8.50 tires you can have for shipping as well. I bet @Pullstart has extras laying around too. Don't know how close you are to him. 

 

44 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Actually Bob that's not a bad price for rubber. Not a great deal more than steel. 

https://tirechainsonline.com/lawn-garden-chains/11-12-rims/23x10-5x12/#product-listing-container

Bet he does too Mike. 

unfortunately it’s a couple two three hours plus curds.  @SylvanLakeWH do you have any spares?

[pfrederi 19,641]

You are missing the steel wheel that goes on the blower is there one missing on the other side also.  That is going to make it harder to shove the blower ahead if it is down.

Edited 1 hour ago by pfrederi

[Achto 30,677]

The one thing that I don't like about snow blowers is that it is usually cold out when you need to use them. 

[SylvanLakeWH 30,345]

32 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

 

unfortunately it’s a couple two three hours plus curds.  @SylvanLakeWH do you have any spares?

Unfortunately no...

[WHX?? 54,155]

37 minutes ago, Pullstart said:

plus curds.

 

4 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said:

Unfortunately no...

Well what good are ya ... No curds for either of ya then ... 

[WHX?? 54,155]

14 hours ago, horseman with no horse said:

how would i mount them?

You get the chains we'll school on the many ways to properly install them.  Jim S has already got you started.