C-Series Hybrid Idea

[Easton Rich 786]

Since I’ve got TONS of extra parts, I have been thinking about what to do with them. I had this idea that I could make a C-Series hybrid tractor. I’d like to have electric clutch, hydraulics, forward swept axle and gear reduction steering, Eaton 1100 or 5091 8spd? Maybe C-195 3pt? I don’t know what else I could do, but my end goal is to have a tractor I can plow, till, harrow, and snowblow with. I’ll get pictures soon of my parts selection.

[ri702bill 10,951]

Electric clutch - why so??

[Easton Rich 786]

I’ve never had one on a tractor, and I wanted to experiment. This thread is for feedback because you guys have way more knowledge than I do.

[ri702bill 10,951]

Depending on the implement being driven by the PTO, the instantaneous engagement of an electric clutch may be an issue; better done with the traditional lever type where you can ease into it. All I use are lever style. My ...

[Ed Kennell 44,072]

                                 Agree with Bill.  I addition to bringing gold prices if you can find one this was not a good Wheel Horse idea.

I understand the need for idiot safety switches, but IMO, the original PTO engagement lever used on the Raiders was the best.

Looking forward to seeing this build.

[kpinnc 16,505]

2 hours ago, ri702bill said:

Depending on the implement being driven by the PTO, the instantaneous engagement of an electric clutch may be an issue; better done with the traditional lever type where you can ease into it.

 

Soft start clutch controller works well for this issue. I've used one for 8 years and it works great. 

 

2 hours ago, Easton Rich said:

I’d like to have electric clutch, hydraulics, forward swept axle and gear reduction steering, Eaton 1100 or 5091 8spd? Maybe C-195 3pt?

 

I didn't use hydraulics on this one but it can be done! Not a C-series but has alot of those parts in it. 

 

[Easton Rich 786]

31 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

 

Soft start clutch controller works well for this issue. I've used one for 8 years and it works great. 

 

 

I didn't use hydraulics on this one but it can be done! Not a C-series but has alot of those parts in it. 

 

Is there a build thread on this one?

[Easton Rich 786]

I can see how electric wouldn’t work. The immediate start would cause belt slippage. Now I know!

[ri702bill 10,951]

41 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

Soft start clutch controller

These allow a more controlled, less violent engagement. As I recall, they are aftermarket, not Factory offered.

[ebinmaine 76,471]

3 hours ago, Easton Rich said:

I’d like to have *******,

forward swept axle and gear reduction steering, *****

 8spd

 

Things I'm doing to my '74 C160-8 currently. 

Also a larger steering wheel, new low back seat, and Briggs vanguard swap.  

Previous mods included 24x12.00-12 tires on wide rear wheels. 

 

I'll be looking forward to your progress. 

 

Manual vs hydro transmission is a personal preference. 

Seems the majority like a manual for rototilling. 

Snow plowing could go either way.  

I've gotten used to a hydro with hydro lift for plowing because of my VERY heavy plow. 

Trina wouldn't be caught on a hydro unless her manual tractors are buried or broken. 

 

For any other usage we both highly prefer a manual transmission. 

 

Adding a hydro lift to a manual transmission tractor is certainly possible but obviously starting out with a hydro transmission and hydro lift would be beneficial.  

 

 

 

[kpinnc 16,505]

1 hour ago, Easton Rich said:

Is there a build thread on this one?

 

Yes.

 

Frokenstien Build

 

 

[midpack 1,082]

4 hours ago, ri702bill said:

These allow a more controlled, less violent engagement. As I recall, they are aftermarket, not Factory offered.

I have a soft start module on a Magnum 18 with an electric PTO. It makes a huge difference. I originally ran it with a manual PTO so I knew exactly how much of a difference it made.

[kpinnc 16,505]

These are what I use on my Scag zero turn and it is awesome. They work with any engine, and are simple to wire up.

 

You wrap the sense wire around a spark plug wire, so it engages based on the RPM of the engine. 

 

Soft start clutch controller

[Easton Rich 786]

Wow, I’ll definitely look into it. How much does it cost? The website didn’t say