CD Long Jr 27 #1 Posted Thursday at 07:23 PM Scored a 1992 Wheel Horse 312-8 today with deck & front blade for 100 bucks. I got homework to do. Engine has no spark plug wire or left side engine cover. Engine does turn over by hand & seems to have compression. Can't get the PTO to engage, the shaft isn't sliding in. Choke cable stuck, throttle cable operates. Deck has minor rot on the right side, but I bought the tractor for snow plowing, I will sell the deck. I had 60s & 70s Cub Cadets & John Deere tractors. I know decks & mule drives were pricey in 2019 when I sold all my garden tractors & bought a new Cub cadet XT1 LT42 with rear bagger, brush guard & arm rests. I missed a garden tractor to plow with. A walk behind snowblower just don't get it done. Snowblower for her is in the future too. Maybe even a sleeve hitch and tiller. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 16,365 #2 Posted Thursday at 08:34 PM (edited) All of the missing engine tins can be found. Any Magnum 10-16hp are the same. The flywheel cover is plastic and the same applies for it. If turning that flywheel proves she has compression, she WILL run. A 312 is a great machine. You can definitely use it for what you're planning. A little love goes a long way on these old tractors. You also already have the rear axle hitch for tillers, snow blades and even grader blades. Well done! Edited Thursday at 08:35 PM by kpinnc 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CD Long Jr 27 #3 Posted Thursday at 09:16 PM Thank you kpinnc! The PTO issue is repaired for now. I found out the engine needs to be running @ idle to engage the PTO. I served 1970-1990/ Field Artillery- 105 towed, Armor & Cavalry-M551 Sheridan, M48A5,M60A1 &M60A3, I was also a Combat Engineer. Yeah, I loved blowin' things up. Welcome home brother. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 76,198 #4 Posted Thursday at 09:58 PM @CD Long Jr Thank you for your service. As stated above the parts availability on Wheelhorses overall is excellent. Redsquare has several great vendors. The members tend to take care of each other as well. You'll find yourself more and more impressed with that mo-chine every time you use it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CD Long Jr 27 #5 Posted Thursday at 10:50 PM Thank you ebinmaine. I'm tryin' to get familiar the forum. Good info, I'll check em out. I'm an Evil Bayer but would sooner spend my money with folks here that know our tractors. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 63,393 #6 Posted yesterday at 12:26 AM Nice introduction. The 312-8 will push a lot of snow with tire chains and some wheel weights or liquid filled tires. The ignition module is missing from your engine, it should be where I have circled your photo. The attached manual should be helpful. PS: ditch the WD-40 and get some KROil or PB Blaster. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 30,353 #7 Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM Looks like the gang has you on your way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 30,033 #8 Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM (edited) I have a C-125 12 hp and a C-105 10 hp which are basically the same thing. Both set up for snow plowing... Great machines!!! Edited yesterday at 12:53 AM by SylvanLakeWH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 16,365 #9 Posted yesterday at 01:02 AM 3 hours ago, CD Long Jr said: Yeah, I loved blowin' things up. Welcome home brother. Yep yep same to you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 76,198 #10 Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM 36 minutes ago, 953 nut said: PS: ditch the WD-40 and get some KROil or PB Blaster With all possible due respect. ... Ditch the PB Blaster. It's been disproven many times as a penetrant. Tests have shown it's little to no better than water. Kroil. Top shelf. Old original formula Liquid Wrench. A mix of ATF & acetone. WD40 BRAND makes a good Specialist Penetrating Oil. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 16,365 #11 Posted yesterday at 01:16 AM 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: Kroil. Top shelf. Old original formula Liquid Wrench Kroil is expensive stuff. ...and worth every penny. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CD Long Jr 27 #12 Posted 17 hours ago 953 nut, thank you. Thanks to all of you. I love this forum already. Lots of good folks and advice here! I Have some PB Blaster & will look into the Kroil. I intend to roll her off the trailer, remove the deck, measure the deck & install the front blade. I have found some wheel weights in FB market place at a reasonable price. As far as tire chains, would the chains with the Vs on the cross links be better? I have a concrete driveway, but I do yard work, including snow removal, for several elderly ladies in the subdivision that can't afford the lawn services. They have asphalt driveways. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 30,033 #13 Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, CD Long Jr said: have a concrete driveway, but I do yard work, including snow removal, for several elderly ladies in the subdivision that can't afford the lawn services. They have asphalt driveways. Me too. I run with no chains and no added weight on three flat concrete drives. No issues. Metal chains will mark both concrete and asphalt. I'd try it without. If needed, add weight, then chains - go with the rubber type. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CD Long Jr 27 #14 Posted 15 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Me too. I run with no chains and no added weight on three flat concrete drives. No issues. Metal chains will mark both concrete and asphalt. I'd try it without. If needed, add weight, then chains - go with the rubber type. Thank you. I'll check into rubber chains. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,610 #15 Posted 11 hours ago @ CD LONG JR have a lot of experience with this oil additive , very good as a varnish removal in engines , that smoke , or have had erratic service used it for years https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rislone-3X-Concentrated-Oil-Supplement-with-Zinc-atment/52628126? , bottle specs are 4 oz for 2 qts of oil , would personally do that in your recovery start set up , also like rotella oils , 30 wt in summer heat , 10-30 winter , can already see results , having done this many times , dtop carb bowl , clean out , replace . like a seperate gallon of heavily treated fresh regular gas , eliminate tank and fuel in it I, hook up hose to fuel pump also use sta bil in all my fuels . with very good results . this is an arguable topic , but it will help your engine come back to life. at start up , just slowly bring it up , don,t scream the hell out of it , that will show you its best running zone , personal experience , is just help it settle down / smooth out , let it run at fast idle , 10-15 min , check carb response , at that stage , idle down , stop , look it over , oil check , leaks ? carb leaks ? next start , will show you a different better running engine , done this regularly , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CD Long Jr 27 #16 Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, peter lena said: @ CD LONG JR have a lot of experience with this oil additive , very good as a varnish removal in engines , that smoke , or have had erratic service used it for years https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rislone-3X-Concentrated-Oil-Supplement-with-Zinc-atment/52628126? , bottle specs are 4 oz for 2 qts of oil , would personally do that in your recovery start set up , also like rotella oils , 30 wt in summer heat , 10-30 winter , can already see results , having done this many times , dtop carb bowl , clean out , replace . like a seperate gallon of heavily treated fresh regular gas , eliminate tank and fuel in it I, hook up hose to fuel pump also use sta bil in all my fuels . with very good results . this is an arguable topic , but it will help your engine come back to life. at start up , just slowly bring it up , don,t scream the hell out of it , that will show you its best running zone , personal experience , is just help it settle down / smooth out , let it run at fast idle , 10-15 min , check carb response , at that stage , idle down , stop , look it over , oil check , leaks ? carb leaks ? next start , will show you a different better running engine , done this regularly , pete I had forgotten about Rislone. Had 2 Shelbys, 67 GT350 & 68 GT500. Used it in both of em. Thaqank you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,610 #17 Posted 4 hours ago @CD Long Jr hello mr long , thank you for that ! when ever I picked up a used engine , typically smoking and neglected , do an " oil " check . like mud and smoking badly . drain it out , like a multi weight for flushing , and of course rislone zinc , as per bottle specs , just let it run and warm up , the initial heavy smoke , starts to lessen , snoop around drop carb bowl , also loaded , found it best to go easy on the transition , but it really does not take long for the VARNISH ENCRUSTED RINGS , to respond to flushing . since doing that , have been using rislone , none of my engines smoke at all , sound and respond very well to anything asked . very easy to try , above all its the thorough engine flushing , and very quiet engine operation , under load . operational running ease , is amazing , like the engines are not struggling at all , also use , sta bil in all my gas , no debris in fuel filters , what is that telling you ? good talking , thanks , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 10,885 #18 Posted 2 hours ago Can someone please tell me about that flywheel? I’ve never seen one with no cooling fins before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 19,390 #19 Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, c-series don said: Can someone please tell me about that flywheel? I’ve never seen one with no cooling fins before? Magnums has bolt on plastic fins 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 10,885 #20 Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, pfrederi said: Magnums has bolt on plastic fins And that explains why I have never seen one before! I have never owned a single cylinder newer than a K-series. Thank you for the info! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 63,393 #21 Posted 1 hour ago 15 hours ago, CD Long Jr said: I have a concrete driveway, but I do yard work, including snow removal, for several elderly ladies in the subdivision that can't afford the lawn services. They have asphalt driveways. A bout 100 feet of my driveway is concrete and a couple hundred feet of asphalt. I have never done any damage to them in twenty years using some very aggressive twist link tire chains. Regular tire chains would be much more prone to spinning. They do leave little marks in the dirt on the surface. Liquid filled tires, 50 pounds of weight per tire and careful driving results in no wheel spin. If the wheel act like the want to spin I back off and take a smaller bight. I plow going up and down the driveway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites