Plow Frame Photos

[702854boy 354]

Would anyone have a photo of how their BD-4262 plow frame looks from the front? With ours, it's way too far to the right even with both of the angle iron mounts centered on the tractor. It looks like ours is bent to the right but nothing looks broken. This is also causing the left side of the plow to hit the left wheel when the plow is angled to the left.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,814]

Your plow mounts to the front of the rear axle housing with horizontal bolts. Correct?

Check your frame at the rear where the transmission bolts to the frame with 4 bolts. They have a habit of cracking around the mounting bolts.

Could you add a plate or two between the axle housing and right side mount? Drill two holes in each shim to match the hitch and it may require longer bolts. It would not take much change at the rear to make a big change at the front.

[702854boy 354]

19 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

Check your frame at the rear where the transmission bolts to the frame with 4 bolts. They have a habit of cracking around the mounting bolts.

When we put the transmission in the tractor everything looked all right there.

 

21 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

Your plow mounts to the front of the rear axle housing with horizontal bolts. Correct?

Yes, it is the pre-attach a matic style. 

 

24 minutes ago, gwest_ca said:

Could you add a plate or two between the axle housing and right side mount? Drill two holes in each shim to match the hitch and it may require longer bolts. It would not take much change at the rear to make a big change at the front.

I could maybe try that sometime this weekend, but another thing I had noticed when looking at it earlier, the right side of the plow appears to be more straight and the left side appears to be more angled in, and the narrowest cross piece appeared to be angled instead of perpendicular to the frame.

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,814]

If the mounting bolts have enough length you could back them off on the right side and center the blade up at the front. That would give you an idea of how much shim you would need to add.

Hard to say what the blade has gone through over the last 63 years. If it could only talk.

[702854boy 354]

1 minute ago, gwest_ca said:

If it could only talk.

Ain't that the truth

[702854boy 354]

Here's some photos of what it looks like right now

[Bar Nuthin 1,722]

10 hours ago, 702854boy said:

Here's some photos of what it looks like right now

 

 

That frame looks like it's been smoked at one time and improperly welded back together (or not repaired at all).

Are you any good at cutting and welding? You're going to need to get it squared up and rewelded.

 

Find a flat area of floor, or maybe a sheet of plywood or drywall, and chalk out a box with a center line, and you'll get some idea of how far out of whack it is.

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Bar Nuthin

[peter lena 9,541]

@Bar Nuthin  that slide pin in the  swing quadrant  and related  squeeze lever ease of function is key  to that  moving with ease , would also suggest a shoulder bolt  at the  lower squeeze lever / frame mount  ?  lets you  have a SMOOTH  LEVER  SWING  POINT  ,  trial build with regular nut  , for  swing  / squeeze ease  , lubrication ,  once VERIFIED  FOR  MOTION . remove regular nut and replace with  elastic Lok nut  ,  did that on my set up  also detailed  every connection point  . like a red aerosol  grease , extension tube , to get into  every movement spot , mine is in use for years now , no issues at all , also like  Pam  / MINERAL OIL ON BLADE FACE , for  easy  slide off  , push those rear frame HITCH PIN CLIPS , all the way thru  to last big hole  ? they  will not fall out or get lost  , remember , SWING QUADRANT SPRING  , RUNS THE ENTIRE  SQUEEZE LEVER  FUNCTION , I know what you are doin , VERIFY  EVERY STEP / STAGE , THATS KEY  ,  happy plowing , pete  

[Bar Nuthin 1,722]

@peter lena  It's not my plow. It belongs to @702854boy. All the lube in the world's not going to help that frame until it gets straightened and re-welded.

[peter lena 9,541]

@Bar Nuthin   aware of that , seen many  attachments  , with similar  issues ,  wrong house , pete    

[Handy Don 14,988]

8 hours ago, Bar Nuthin said:

That frame looks like it's been smoked at one time and improperly welded back together (or not repaired at all).

Are you any good at cutting and welding? You're going to need to get it squared up and rewelded.

 

Bar you are totally on the money at this frame being distorted.

It looks to me like it hit something really hard at the left end of the plow and it simply twisted the quadrant (and the frame) sideways.

@702854boy, if it were mine, I’d take it to a body shop with a frame-straighter machine. They might just be able to get it realigned without cutting and welding.

[702854boy 354]

2 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

 

@702854boy, if it were mine, I’d take it to a body shop with a frame-straighter machine. They might just be able to get it realigned without cutting and welding.

Would a bfh maybe work?

[Handy Don 14,988]

23 minutes ago, 702854boy said:

Would a bfh maybe work?

Extremely unlikely that you could get the right amount of force in the right place with the frame properly braced for the impact. AND you’d risk making it worse!

Frame straighteners use clamps, chains, and hydraulics to carefully pull things into their proper alignment.

A tech who knows what they are doing could probably straighten that frame in less than 30 minutes--25 minutes for setup and two minutes to bend it back. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Handy Don

[Handy Don 14,988]

Notwithstanding my previous post, if I were desperate and low on funds and I had a come-along, some chains, pry bars, and some stout trees and I was willing to chance damaging ithe frame beyond repair, I’d consider kludging up a way to pull it straight by putting it in tension in the right direction and then applying some moderate hits with a sledge. 

[ri702bill 10,437]

1 hour ago, Handy Don said:

the frame beyond repair

Not that far from being there right now... 

[Handy Don 14,988]

44 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

Not that far from being there right now... 

Valid point.

Complete used plow with a straight (but likely worn) frame would be anywhere from $50-200 around here. 

I have that same frame on my plow. It is not especially robust and it does flex a bit to let one end of the plow ride higher than the other. 

 

Straightening forces would be applied steadily and simultaneously at the arrows. Note that these forces might be a thousand pounds or more and must be kept in the same plane as the frame. 

Edited 6 minutes ago by Handy Don