312H Snow Plow build

[Joe BenHayon 69]

Being that I live on the Western side of the Continental Divide, and getting a good plow assembly shipped here would probably double my cost, I am looking to build my own frame and will adapt an atv plow to that. I located a axle mount bracket on Ebay, so I have a good attachment.  I'm just looking for a drawing or print of the frame. Hoping somebody here can draw it up for me, or point me to a factory print.

 

Thanks,

Joe

[ebinmaine 75,409]

Joe I'm no artist or anything close it but we do have a bare plow frame setting in the barn for easy access. 

I'd be happy to get some pics and measurements for you later today. 

[ri702bill 10,453]

Got the axle bracket??? There are two styles; one for short frame tractors and one for later long frame tractors like your 312. Be sure you get the correct one.

The frame is one thing; if the ATV plow does not angle, there are numerous parts needed to do so. And the trip feature - VERY important if you encounter a fixed solid object while plowing...

Is there a specific "other" brand of garden tractor in plentiful supply out in Colorado? Perhaps you could buy / barter one that has those features and adapt the frame?? Just my ...

Edited November 30 by ri702bill

[Joe BenHayon 69]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Joe I'm no artist or anything close it but we do have a bare plow frame setting in the barn for easy access. 

I'd be happy to get some pics and measurements for you later today. 

Great! Appreciate it. 😁

[ebinmaine 75,409]

 

 

Here's a pile of pics with a tape measure. 

 

 

[Joe BenHayon 69]

1 hour ago, ri702bill said:

Got the axle bracket??? There are two styles; one for short frame tractors and one for later long frame tractors like your 312. Be sure you get the correct one.

The frame is one thing; if the ATV plow does not angle, there are numerous parts needed to do so. And the trip feature - VERY important if you encounter a fixed solid object while plowing...

Is there a specific "other" brand of garden tractor in plentiful supply out in Colorado? Perhaps you could buy / barter one that has those features and adapt the frame?? Just my ...

There is one on eBay sold by Wheel Horse Parts and More, pn: 104659, that is apparently the right one. I have seen the frame extension kit, but I figure if I have the overall length, I can build/modify another brand to work. 

 

As for the plow, I found a JD one that has the trip feature and is steerable. So once I have dimensions, I can modify as needed 

[Joe BenHayon 69]

Thanks ebinmaine! On the frame, is that regular C-channel or fabricated from flat plate?

[ebinmaine 75,409]

12 minutes ago, Joe BenHayon said:

Thanks ebinmaine! On the frame, is that regular C-channel or fabricated from flat plate?

 

22 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

All "C" channel. You can see 👀 😏 it above. 

 

I can get measurements on that tomorrow. 

 

Note the section that has plate attached to the inside with the 3/4" rod through it. That's the part that attaches to the rear bracket. 

 

FYI.  If you have the skills to weld up a whole frame, you could probably make a rear bracket too.  

 

Unrelated: 

"C" is for cookie. I learned that from Cookie Monster years ago.  

[ri702bill 10,453]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

All "C" channel

But not C shaped Structural Channel Iron. Not that heavy, no square outside corners. Looks like custom bent flat stock. 

This stuff would weigh a ton!!

[8ntruck 8,289]

  I'd guess they were roll formed.

[ebinmaine 75,409]

56 minutes ago, ri702bill said:

But not C shaped Structural Channel Iron. Not that heavy, no square outside corners. Looks like custom bent flat stock. 

This stuff would weigh a ton!!

 

There's a type of C channel with a rounded outside corner. 

Much lighter than the picture above.  

 

 

 

[peter lena 9,543]

@Joe BenHayon  would also be a good time to  plan some upgrading for functional detailing , that  front of frame steering quadrant  , slide pin / function runs the whole show , also the , also the swing lever  frame mount point , good spot for a shoulder bolt and  elastic lock nut , to  hold washered / lubricated  swing area . would also build that up  on  milk crates up off the floor  , suspended  like on the tractor , roller stool  heim joints on  movement rods . lets you  dial in entire movement function  , just a suggestion , pete 

[Lee1977 7,439]

EB is the 65" from the blade pivot or the blade mount? It's a little unclear where you measured from.

There is a lighter weight U channel 2" x !" with !/8" on all three sides.  Still heaver then the folded plate channel.

[ebinmaine 75,409]

5 hours ago, Lee1977 said:

EB is the 65" from the blade pivot or the blade mount? It's a little unclear where you measured from.

There is a lighter weight U channel 2" x !" with !/8" on all three sides.  Still heaver then the folded plate channel.

 

 

That's measuring the total length of the frame from the nose. Right over the top of the pivot bolt.

[Joe BenHayon 69]

And so it begins..... 🧐🧐

 

I picked up some 1x2 rectangle tubing in lieu of the factory style "U" channel. 

 

The JD blade has 5 position angle adjustment and the trip can be locked for dirt work. 😁 It's only 45" wide, but it is wider than my track at the rear wheels.

 

I'll have to modify the front mount, but will keep the wheels as they have proven handy to move the plow around just getting it into position for pictures. 😁😁👍👍

 

I gave $50 for the plow.

Edited Saturday at 12:04 AM by Joe BenHayon
Added cost.

[Joe BenHayon 69]

Mock-up looks promising..... 😁😁

[SylvanLakeWH 29,696]

Looking good! 

 

Gonna need to paint that thing red though... 

[peter lena 9,543]

@Joe BenHayon  ever  serviced the  front end , for wear / lubrication ? thats a lot more plow  than original ,  front spindles and wheel bearings/ related  , might need a refresh , your  lighter  dry snow  is a big advantage , good luck with that , pete

[Joe BenHayon 69]

14 hours ago, peter lena said:

@Joe BenHayon  ever  serviced the  front end , for wear / lubrication ? thats a lot more plow  than original ,  front spindles and wheel bearings/ related  , might need a refresh , your  lighter  dry snow  is a big advantage , good luck with that , pete

Anybody have a weight for the factory plow assembly?

[Joe BenHayon 69]

Anyone have problems with the frame racking sideways when dumping snow off to the side?

[Joe BenHayon 69]

Progress... 😁😁😁

[kpinnc 16,095]

Looks good so far. 

 

What's the offset at the rear for?

[ebinmaine 75,409]

8 hours ago, Joe BenHayon said:

Anybody have a weight for the factory plow assembly?

 

I can get that this morning.  

 

 

7 hours ago, Joe BenHayon said:

Anyone have problems with the frame racking sideways when dumping snow off to the side?

 

Thw frames don't bend but the entire assembly can absolutely be sent sideways some. Many people make a bracket limiting side motion at the front.  

 

 

[peter lena 9,543]

@ebinmaine  think that plow strength  / weight alone  , will overpower /  that entire set up , if it ever gets used , numerous  other failures will show themselves . running an original  horse plow for  many years , only thing that  wares out is the  , lower blade scraping  strip set up . keeping blade slick  , really  helps snow slide off  , unloading it   easily . would bet that front axel set up  is not going to last long , spindles / bearings etc,  that plow weight / strength , will eat that horse , pete    

[Handy Don 15,004]

12 hours ago, Joe BenHayon said:

Anyone have problems with the frame racking sideways when dumping snow off to the side?

 

4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Many people make a bracket limiting side motion at the front

 

@Ed Kennell has made a couple and those inspired me to make this one. Ed’s also include weight holders for helping keep the front on the ground and steerable!  

The key is to limit side-to-side motion within the Attach-a-Matic (I used washers welded to the ends of the rod) and not extend the reinforcement downward too far to impeded lifting the plow. Adding a decal to the front plate is optional--I just haven’t come up with a nifty idea yet!

 

Others have made their down-rod align with holes one of the plow frame side rails.