Sparky-(Admin) 23,909 #1 Posted yesterday at 04:59 PM The starter/generator on my 857 starts and charges well…but it’s noisy. It’s model #1101973. I’m looking for a rebuild kit. Amazon has what I think is the exact same kit that I Save Tractors was selling (some picture and same write up) for $43. The number on mine isn’t on the list that the Amazon ad shows, it lists off many numbers and then says “and many more”. Am I one of the many more? I assume mine is just a standard start/gen from the 60’s? The last two pics are off the Amazon page. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
702854boy 335 #2 Posted yesterday at 05:13 PM If you take the s/g apart and find that the brushes are in decent condition you might be able to find just the bearings for it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,336 #3 Posted yesterday at 05:14 PM Mike: That kit fits both styles of S/G's. Early ones with 2 ball bearings, later ones with 1 bushing and 1 ball bearing. Should be fine? Does Yours have two oil cups on it?? My 854 does - 2 bearings. Check on Fleabay - search under Delco Remy Starter Generator. There is an Electric Shop that sells kits... good feedback rating. Bill 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 23,909 #4 Posted yesterday at 05:48 PM 33 minutes ago, 702854boy said: If you take the s/g apart and find that the brushes are in decent condition you might be able to find just the bearings for it. Haven’t opened it yet, I suspect it’s all original so I figure if it’s apart I might as well replace everything and hopefully never have to open it up again. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,787 #5 Posted yesterday at 06:37 PM Didn't we just do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 23,909 #6 Posted yesterday at 07:04 PM 25 minutes ago, squonk said: Didn't we just do this? We did…what I wanted to know is if the Amazon kit I showed is correct as I didn’t see my start/gen number listed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 23,909 #7 Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, ri702bill said: Mike: That kit fits both styles of S/G's. Early ones with 2 ball bearings, later ones with 1 bushing and 1 ball bearing. Should be fine? Does Yours have two oil cups on it?? My 854 does - 2 bearings. Check on Fleabay - search under Delco Remy Starter Generator. There is an Electric Shop that sells kits... good feedback rating. Bill Bill, no oil cups on either my 857 or my 867. I can see when the casting has been changed to eliminate em though 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,336 #8 Posted 23 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Sparky said: I can see when the casting has been changed to eliminate em though They just become a conversation piece when you use sealed bearings.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,787 #9 Posted 23 hours ago The Genny's are pretty much all the same. Use the same bearings or maybe one end has the bushing. 90% of Delco genny use the same R430 brushes. I've probably done about a dozen WH genny's and everyone was the same. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 14,894 #10 Posted 22 hours ago On the one that I’ve done, the pulley-end bearing needed replacing, but the other one was tight, smooth, and quiet so I left it. The brushes were only ⅓ gone so they got left in too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 10,336 #11 Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, Handy Don said: On the one that I’ve done, the pulley-end bearing needed replacing, but the other one was tight, smooth, and quiet so I left it. The brushes were only ⅓ gone so they got left in too. Pulley end bearing - a classic case of overhung load. Constant sideload from the V belt - even when the tractor is off.... The inner bearing / bushing just cruises along for the ride! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 14,894 #12 Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 21 minutes ago, ri702bill said: Pulley end bearing - a classic case of overhung load. Constant sideload from the V belt - even when the tractor is off.... The inner bearing / bushing just cruises along for the ride! When I first set up the 854, I tried not to over tighten the S/G belt. Then I watched it slip on the first crank as it hit the compression stroke (this is a spark-retard K181, so no help on compression). So much for being “gentle." Edited 19 hours ago by Handy Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 62,646 #13 Posted 18 hours ago If you have bearings on both ends this is a kit I have used with good results. 47 minutes ago, Handy Don said: I tried not to over tighten the S/G belt. Then I watched it slip on the first crank as it hit the compression A raw edge cogged belt is best for a S/G. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,787 #14 Posted 7 hours ago Funny. Most of the bearings I've replaced were the non pulley end. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 75,074 #15 Posted 5 hours ago @Sparky In the thread linked by @squonk above - @953 nut posted a link to an ebay seller. That description shows the 1101973 for your application. Pricing is very reasonable at $24 to your door but it doesn't indicate country of origin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 44,787 #16 Posted 1 hour ago Open the sealed bearings and install the grease of your choice. Brushes are brushes. Doesn't matter where it's from. The bean counters are building junk here just like everywhere else 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
