702854boy 100 #1 Posted Tuesday at 11:04 PM Does anyone know what type of switch to get for my 854 that has a s/g? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,980 #2 Posted Tuesday at 11:21 PM (edited) The factory original starter / ignition switch was # 7268. Since this switch type hasn't been used in over sixty years it is unlikely that you will find a new one. The wiring diagram below will allow you to use a solenoid and modern 103990 ignition switch. I would suggest adding a 25 amp fuse on the wire from the solenoid to the "B" terminal of the switch Edited Tuesday at 11:22 PM by 953 nut 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 52,229 #3 Posted Wednesday at 12:13 AM (edited) 54 minutes ago, 953 nut said: unlikely that you will find a new one. No no Richard ... This is the 70 amp switch that directly feeds the starter with heavy gauge wires. If it's original that is. Guy by the name of @new to horses has plenty and I have a couple extras too. He is not on here much tho but you'll find them at one of our favorite vendors here. Probably evil bay too. It can be upgraded to Richard's diagram but much easier just to get a new correct switch. Here's the manual ... find the part number and research it. It is your homework. Tractor 1964 854 OM IPL Wiring (1).pdf Edited Wednesday at 12:15 AM by WHX?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
702854boy 100 #4 Posted Wednesday at 12:37 AM 21 minutes ago, WHX?? said: If it's original that is. I do have the original one and it was still working but I decided I wanted to switch it over to the solenoid and low amp switch to make it a little less likely to let all the magic smoke out. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 52,229 #5 Posted Wednesday at 12:56 AM (edited) Ahh ok ... Richards diagram then. Use a generic four post switch then. Edited Wednesday at 12:56 AM by WHX?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,596 #6 Posted Wednesday at 08:37 AM 8 hours ago, 702854boy said: I do have the original one and it was still working but I decided I wanted to switch it over to the solenoid and low amp switch to make it a little less likely to let all the magic smoke out. No need to replace the switch. Just add the solenoid and get rid of the heavy wire to the switch if you want to. Replace with 14 gauge wire. The original switch should now outlast the rest of the tractor. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 9,671 #7 Posted Wednesday at 09:15 AM I am in full agreement in adding a solenoid to the 854 - I did mine years ago. I made up a flat plate and mounted it to to back end of the S/G - that allowed short runs for the wiring. Running the heavy amperage load thru an ignition switch is not a good longterm idea..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
702854boy 100 #8 Posted Wednesday at 11:41 AM 3 hours ago, gwest_ca said: The original switch should now outlast the rest of the tractor. Is it even possible for the tractor to degrade if taken care of properly? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 14,263 #9 Posted Wednesday at 06:24 PM One example of adding a solenoid and attaching it to the generator and having it fit under the 854 hood. Very similar to @ri702bill’s. Here in our files section, are two versions of the 854 wiring diagram--with and without a solenoid. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 9,671 #10 Posted Wednesday at 07:03 PM And I see the added weather resistant inline fuse holder - a "must have" when rewiring a 50 plus year old tractor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites