FLtractor 62 #26 Posted July 31 22 hours ago, kpinnc said: Most Kohler K181 carb kits are the same. They should come with a new gasket seal. Of course at that point I would go ahead and remove and clean the carb components. Plently of videos on YouTube for that. @ebinmaine beat me to it. And yeah, I'm talking about the carb bowl. This is my 856 directly under carb glass sediment bowl.. bottom screw wet to touch with fuel.. even without turning it.. will have to wait till I get a replacement gasket for it to open it to drain and clean bowl. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 74,182 #27 Posted July 31 16 minutes ago, FLtractor said: This is my 856 directly under carb glass sediment bowl.. bottom screw wet to touch with fuel.. even without turning it.. will have to wait till I get a replacement gasket for it to open it to drain and clean bowl. I believe this bowl should be aluminum. Not glass. But there could be a separate glass bowl elsewhere. 🥣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 62 #28 Posted July 31 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: I believe this bowl should be aluminum. Not glass. But there could be a separate glass bowl elsewhere. 🥣 It’s aluminum after looking closer and tapping it.. said glass by mistake after re reading what others wrote 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adsm08 3,544 #29 Posted July 31 19 minutes ago, FLtractor said: This is my 856 directly under carb glass sediment bowl.. It is not. It is not glass, it is aluminum, as @ebinmaine pointed out. And it's not really the sediment bowl. The glass sediment bowl is up under the tank. If it has anything really at all in it check inside the tank to make sure the tank outlet isn't plugged. The sediment bowl will not be empty if the tank outlet plugs up and stops fuel flow to the carb. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 15,371 #30 Posted August 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, adsm08 said: And it's not really the sediment bowl. Not being a jerk, just asking for clarification. That aluminum bowl has two purposes: One is to separate water and trash from the fuel before entering the carburetor. The second is to provide a sump for the float to actuate the fuel shut off. The aluminum bowl on some Techumseh engines are the one and only thing better than a Kohler: the have an exterior dump valve. I always wondered why Kohler never added that feature. The Kohler manual just calls it a "bowl", and I understand that. I am just trying to understand your comment. Again, I don't not mean to seem like I'm calling you out. Edited August 1 by kpinnc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,988 #31 Posted August 1 21 hours ago, FLtractor said: What is this black piece on the yellow ish tubing for? Do you have a link for that and that fuel pump you have installed? It is an fuse block a requirement for installation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adsm08 3,544 #32 Posted August 1 19 hours ago, kpinnc said: Not being a jerk, just asking for clarification. That aluminum bowl has two purposes: One is to separate water and trash from the fuel before entering the carburetor. The second is to provide a sump for the float to actuate the fuel shut off. The aluminum bowl on some Techumseh engines are the one and only thing better than a Kohler: the have an exterior dump valve. I always wondered why Kohler never added that feature. The Kohler manual just calls it a "bowl", and I understand that. I am just trying to understand your comment. Again, I don't not mean to seem like I'm calling you out. No need to apologize to seeking knowledge. I wouldn't consider the bowl on this carb to be a "sediment bowl" for two reasons. 1) I've never found any in it, and I've run mine for years with a very nasty, crusty fuel tank. 2) There is a more proper on upstream at the outlet of the tank that actually collects a lot of crap. At the end of the day a true "sediment bowl" is somewhere that debris is supposed to collect and, for the most part, stay, until you clean it. In my experience any debris that winds up in the float bowl of a Kholer will eventually make its way into the jet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 62 #33 Posted August 3 What HP fuel pump did these 856 come with Orginally? Can’t re locate the digital owners manual I once read. If my current fuel pump has had ethanol fuel tan through it for who knows how on.. do I need to replace it along with the fuel lines and fuel filter before start fueling non ethanol? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 74,182 #34 Posted August 3 If your current fuel pump is working ok AND not leaking I wouldn't be concerned. The original metal pumps can be rebuilt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 62 #35 Posted August 3 2 hours ago, ebinmaine said: If your current fuel pump is working ok AND not leaking I wouldn't be concerned. The original metal pumps can be rebuilt. This one on my tractor is a black plastic located under the carb.. just wondering what should be the proper HP it should be so it’s not damaging O rings or other parts due to excessive pressure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,870 #36 Posted August 3 The black plastic pumps either OE or knockoff are not going to generate excessive pressure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLtractor 62 #37 Posted August 3 3 hours ago, pfrederi said: The black plastic pumps either OE or knockoff are not going to generate excessive pressure. Oh ok thank you for the info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
