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KT17 Flywheels are not all the same...

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Being that almost all my engine work on KT series involved Wheel Horse tractors (and not all that many flywheel replacements) I went on ebay and got a replacement flywheel for my 417-8 (KT17-24363)  Unfortunately it arrived, and I discovered that the crankshaft hub diameter on that (Came off a John Deere KT17) was rather a bit smaller, so my $100 went down the toilet (Though I suppose I could re-sell the flywheel if I could identify which part number it might translate to).  Oddly enough the PDF IPL in the manuals section only goes to spec number 24343 for some reason, so I could not identify for sure what flywheel exactly I needed. 

 

Taking a guess at most likely 52-025-25-S I did a quick search , brand new one (new old stock) on ebay listed for $1200+ - whoa! So I rolled the dice again and bought a good used one off a Bolens (Couldn't tell but  the hub hole LOOKED like the larger size I needed) so we'll see if that works out (or it's another $80 down the hole) 

 

Reason for flywheel: Magnets had come loose on mine and shattered into a dozen pieces (I have a used stator and a new stator if mine turns out to be bad) so I had no charging output. 

 

Just a heads up (and a post for posterity) for folks looking to get a replacement flywheel - just because it is for a KT17 or KT19 does not mean it is gonna fit up on your engine. I hadn't realized they'd made them in different sizes like that. 

 

Also a heads up that the IPL hosted here doesn't cover all the spec numbers (Still searching for one that covers spec 24363) 

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pfrederi

and Rehlko no longer shows parts details for KT series...However the do show who a spec was built for .. They built Series 2 #24336 for WH and the parts manual here does show that one it uses Variation #50 part # 52 025 20

 

That # was also used on some Series 1 WH KTs

 

 

 

 

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John2189

Could you remove the magnets from the flywheel that doesn’t fit and glue them to the one that does?  

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Gasaholic
3 hours ago, John2189 said:

Could you remove the magnets from the flywheel that doesn’t fit and glue them to the one that does?  

They don't come loose easily when they are properly bonded and not worth the time and trouble to try and "cook" the flywheel to break the bond (Which itself could mess up the magnets)  plus you have to get the magnets in the right positions, the right polarity, etc.  - Not worth the trouble to try and no sense destroying a perfectly good flywheel that I could re-sell. 

 

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John2189
6 hours ago, Gasaholic said:

They don't come loose easily when they are properly bonded and not worth the time and trouble to try and "cook" the flywheel to break the bond (Which itself could mess up the magnets)  plus you have to get the magnets in the right positions, the right polarity, etc.  - Not worth the trouble to try and no sense destroying a perfectly good flywheel that I could re-sell. 

 

Ok makes sense 

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Gasaholic

Finally got the correctly sized flywheel (had to re-glue one of the magnets) and got my 3rd horse up and running with working rototiller, finally. Just gave it a tryout in the garden and she works wonderfully! (photo taken after I parked it) 

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c-series don
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@Gasaholic How do you like the 8-speed and electric lift combination? I recently picked up the lift cable for my 418-8 so I can put the tiller on. 

 

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Gasaholic

electric lift makes it effortless, so I love it. I have tilled so far only in 1st low, but as I mentioned, it works beautifully. Didn't even need to add weights or chains (I thought I might need to, but it doesn't push, so far...)

 

I just got that 417-8 locally for relatively cheap complete with tiller and snowplow (now I have 2 plows, so one's up for sale when I get around to posting it) but it was heavily abused, or at least a lot of "cobbling" was done - For example, hacked wiring harness, lift switch was bad, someone put an ammeter in where the voltmeter was and tried to hook it up the same way, and when it popped fuses, they just left it disconnected, no charging, lots of missing hardware and bits &pieces, a really beat up PTO (they had the PTO brake adjusted so tight it was worn away and digging a groove into the PTO pulley) safety switches bypassed, circuit board inoperative (I may get around to fixing that) oil pressure switch wiring mangled, but at this point it runs and works, so the "restoration" work I'll probably do a bit at a time as I come across the miscellaneous pieces I need for it.. MY main goal was to get it so I can use it to till our garden plot , making my 1948 Farmall cub (with plow, sickle bar and disk harrow) a moot point (So I'll probably sell that cub too. It all works and just plowed & disked the garden this spring. Amazing how powerful that little 9 HP Cub is...)

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Dan 312-8
6 hours ago, c-series don said:

@Gasaholic How do you like the 8-speed and electric lift combination? I recently picked up the lift cable for my 418-8 so I can put the tiller on. 

 

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@c-series don using it would require dirt getting into the cleats of the tires…😳🤔🫨

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