My 701 saga

[kpinnc 18,219]

20 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

have no idea why  went this route. It's been said this same solenoid was used on some truck sno plow set ups.

 

Pretty sure my solenoid is operated by +12VDC. No biggie. Just looked wrong. I learned something new! 

 

So can I run the wire from the middle tab (GEN) directly back to the positive side of the battery?

 

The pic below is a Kohler manual. Just has a meter in series between the center tab and positive terminal. 

 

Edited May 11 by kpinnc

[WHX?? 56,593]

4 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

So can I run the wire from the middle tab (GEN) directly back to the positive side of the battery?

Yep if your not going to have a ammeter. 

 

Double check what solenoid you have. Hate to see you let any magic smoke out. 

[kpinnc 18,219]

55 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Double check what solenoid you have. Hate to see you let any magic smoke out. 

 

Yep me too. 

[ebinmaine 78,828]

5 hours ago, 702854boy said:

Mine already looks like that because every wire except the 6 gauge positive battery cables are black

 

I am NOT a fan of that.

Wheelhorse originally used all one color to save money on the build. 

I understand that. And I thoroughly disagree with the idea. Just adding one color would have added minimal cost and made future diagnostics and repairs much easier. 

In the world of 12 volt negative ground, red is hot, black is ground. ...to start with. Then other hot colors for other circuits can be added.  

 

I use a section of  7 conductor trailer wire to begin making my harnesses.  

 

[ebinmaine 78,828]

5 hours ago, kpinnc said:

The pic below is a Kohler manual

 

 

That's interesting. I never knew that having a solenoid was an OE idea. 

[ebinmaine 78,828]

4 hours ago, WHX?? said:

Yep if your not going to have a ammeter. 

 

Double check what solenoid you have. Hate to see you let any magic smoke out. 

 

I've read & been told that most older jeep and ford 3 terminal solenoids work. 

I'm not prone to using light weight modern stuff so I use a very heavy duty Cole Hersee industrial type solenoid. 

 

A little more money ....  but worth it.  

 

 

[squonk 46,557]

6 hours ago, WHX?? said:

 

 

I have no idea why  went this route. It's been said this same solenoid was used on some truck sno plow set ups. 

That style solenoid was mainly used to keep amp draw on the activating control to a minimum for continuous duty applications like snow plows and electric actuators.

[ebinmaine 78,828]

9 minutes ago, squonk said:

That style solenoid was mainly used to keep amp draw on the activating control to a minimum for continuous duty applications like snow plows and electric actuators.

 

When did they start going this route?

[squonk 46,557]

5 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

When did they start going this route?

Way back when.  Saw them on my 60's Jeeps

[WHX?? 56,593]

3 hours ago, squonk said:

amp draw on the activating control to a minimum 

I see ... I think ... so the amp draw is only on the internal connection between the large post and the small one on the solenoid. Not thru the start button. 

 

Be care when working with the dash plate KP. use mounting screws with small heads. They can break the plate at the corners on the bottom if too big. I used the original ammeter just for old skool look. 

Tom @Shynon was playing with making aluminum plates on his milling machine. Don't know if he perfected that yet or not.  

Edited May 11 by WHX??

[squonk 46,557]

9 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

I see ... I think ... so the amp draw is only on the internal connection between the large post and the small one on the solenoid. Not thru the start button. 

Yup. The switch is just carrying the amperage for the solenoid coil which is probably around half an amp

[kpinnc 18,219]

2 hours ago, WHX?? said:

Be care when working with the dash plate KP. use mounting screws with small heads. They can break the plate at the corners on the bottom if too big.

 

Cracked mine months ago. Already glued. We will see what happens. Thinking of using allen head cap screws if I can find them. 

[Handy Don 16,595]

3 hours ago, WHX?? said:

Possible blasphemy here, but coating the plastic dash with a suitable paint would go a long way toward reducing deterioration from UV. 

Edited May 11 by Handy Don

[Shynon 7,575]

5 hours ago, WHX?? said:

I see ... I think ... so the amp draw is only on the internal connection between the large post and the small one on the solenoid. Not thru the start button. 

 

Be care when working with the dash plate KP. use mounting screws with small heads. They can break the plate at the corners on the bottom if too big. I used the original ammeter just for old skool look. 

Tom @Shynon was playing with making aluminum plates on his milling machine. Don't know if he perfected that yet or not.  

3d printed and aluminum. 

[ebinmaine 78,828]

7 hours ago, kpinnc said:

 

Cracked mine months ago. Already glued. We will see what happens. Thinking of using allen head cap screws if I can find them. 

 

 

Contact Bolt Depot in Hingham MA

[kpinnc 18,219]

I hate sheetmetal work. 

 

Some idiot apparently used my 701 belt guard on a low mount starter engine. They cut a path for the belt to pass and screwed a screen on the front with self tapping screws. 

 

Welding sheetmetal is a pain, but I was able to make it look decent. Not perfect but at least it was on the bottom. 

 

My hood was torn all up where it meets the frame up front. So I cut the bad spot out, added a new bottom plate, then made a 1/8 tab that wraps into the sides for extra support. Needs a little filler in the weld gaps but it won't be visible when finished. 

 

At least these parts will fit right now. A little more work and they will look good enough. 

 

[WHX?? 56,593]

Better than what I coulda done. 

[kpinnc 18,219]

59 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Better than what I coulda done. 

 

Trust me everything looks better on the internet... 

[ebinmaine 78,828]

9 hours ago, WHX?? said:

Better than what I coulda done. 

 

8 hours ago, kpinnc said:

 

Trust me everything looks better on the internet... 

 

Mebbe so but it looks great from Maine.  

[MainelyWheelhorse 2,568]

If it’s going to be a worker and not a showpiece I’d run it as is. Then, if it gets bumped or banged it won’t spike your blood pressure. 🙂