Sethd31 18 #1 Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Just purchased my first wheel horse and the previous owner says it's a 1964 1045. I've done a lot of research and seems this forum has the most Info across the board. Can anyone help with the identity of this WH Edited July 19, 2018 by Sethd31 Upload photos 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 14,898 #2 Posted July 19, 2018 Look under the dash where the arrow is pointing for the model ID tag. Also, the 1045 should have individual round rear fenders. Post some more pictures if you could. and Welcome... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sethd31 18 #3 Posted July 19, 2018 It does have individual round fenders. I looked all over under the dash and found no model ID tag 😟 perhaps it was removed or painted over.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 19,547 #4 Posted July 19, 2018 The seller was close, it's a 1965. Other than the wrong seat it looks great! You even have the original front tires 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,712 #5 Posted July 19, 2018 Your 1045 even has the hard to find original front tires! It is sort of a crossover model that retained the rear fenders from previous years but incorporated the "new" square hood. Very nice find. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 19,547 #6 Posted July 19, 2018 Here's what you have including the numbers that should be on the motor if it's original: 1045 / 1965 Lawn & Garden Tractor 1045 4-Speed Kohler K241AS-46219A 10 Wheel Horse 5025 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sethd31 18 #7 Posted July 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, rmaynard said: Look under the dash where the arrow is pointing for the model ID tag. Also, the 1045 should have individual round rear fenders. Post some more pictures if you could. and Welcome... 1 minute ago, Sparky said: The seller was close, it's a 1965. Other than the wrong seat it looks great! You even have the original front tires Currently trying to find an original pan seat 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,712 #8 Posted July 19, 2018 This manual should be handy to have. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sethd31 18 #9 Posted July 19, 2018 Also came with 40" snow blade and mower deck.. deck needs some bolts and blades.. all in all for $300 I'm super happy and she runs like a top! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,712 #10 Posted July 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sethd31 said: $300 I'm super happy and she runs like a top 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill in VA 1,366 #11 Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) OK now this here's the "I'm still not under standing then BUT" department about the 1964 model 1045. From the information I got from Wheel Horse years ago about the model 1045 that it was only produced for 3 months in 1964, August, September and October BUT I remember seeing a photo of a 1045 manual with a and I think it was a April or May 1964 date hand written on the front. So I'm not sure BUT I do know the 1045 was not a common Wheel Horse model and the one pictured here in this thread is a extremely nice example with the original front tires. The seat pan should be the flat square type with cover. The 1045 is one of the few short framed Wheel Horses that used the larger block Kohler engine, the other is the 1075 made in 1965. These Kohler's used a smaller oil pan with special connecting rods that had a dipper scoop for oil instead of the long tail type dipper. I had used my 1045 in a few stock tractor pulls and I would leave the mower deck on ........ with the front wheels up in the air you could see the blades on the deck ..... I did this to show the folks "Yes it's stock and I cut my lawn with it" ! Wild Bill in Richmond, VA Edited July 20, 2018 by Wild Bill in VA 6 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,515 #13 Posted July 20, 2018 Wow! Great Horse! Please do keep the forum Stallions up to date! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 19,547 #17 Posted July 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Wild Bill in VA said: OK now this here's the "I'm still not under standing then BUT" department about the 1964 model 1045. From the information I got from Wheel Horse years ago about the model 1045 that it was only produced for 3 months in 1964, August, September and October BUT I remember seeing a photo of a 1045 manual with a and I think it was a April or May 1964 date hand written on the front. So I'm not sure BUT I do know the 1045 was not a common Wheel Horse model and the one pictured here in this thread is a extremely nice example with the original front tires. The seat pan should be the flat square type with cover. The 1045 is one of the few short framed Wheel Horses that used the larger block Kohler engine, the other is the 1075 made in 1965. These Kohler's used a smaller oil pan with special connecting rods that had a dipper scoop for oil instead of the long tail type dipper. I had used my 1045 in a few stock tractor pulls and I would leave the mower deck on ........ with the front wheels up in the air you could see the blades on the deck ..... I did this to show the folks "Yes it's stock and I cut my lawn with it" ! Wild Bill in Richmond, VA @Wild Bill in VA ...you're referring to it as a 1964, but is it a 1964 or 1965 model? I was of the assumption the last number in the model number (1045) denoted the model year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,332 #18 Posted July 20, 2018 If you need parts contact AtoZ tractors. These people are wonderful! Your first pic looks like the little ear is broke off the bracket that holds the implement arm in position. They should have one! good luck and welcome board!😀 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 4,877 #19 Posted July 20, 2018 Sethd31 Good luck with the tractor. As you can see good help here as always. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 59,727 #20 Posted July 20, 2018 Welcome to RedSquare @Sethd31! I love your tractor, something about them round fenders and short frame... If you’re ever in Michigan with it and decide to leave it behind, I’ll send you my address! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,652 #21 Posted July 20, 2018 Great find!! I've had two 1045's over the years and passed both of them on to other horse lovers. The 1045 has not id plate on the dash tower, but instead it has a sticker above the lift assembly as pictured below. I see the outline of the sticker in your picture, but it is covered with dirt. Your 1045 is a great survivor and those front tires are very sought after! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sethd31 18 #22 Posted July 20, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said: Great find!! I've had two 1045's over the years and passed both of them on to other horse lovers. The 1045 has not id plate on the dash tower, but instead it has a sticker above the lift assembly as pictured below. I see the outline of the sticker in your picture, but it is covered with dirt. Your 1045 is a great survivor and those front tires are very sought after! Thanks! I saw that outline as well but was hesitant to go scraping at it since it was covered in paint to reveal the number.. BUT, I went ahead and cleaned it off and got my #! 22214 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,499 #23 Posted July 20, 2018 Have kept the serial numbers in the 1964 file because I believe it was released as a late 1964 model. Added the 1965 file because it does show up in a 1965 parts manual. Click on the picture. If they had used their normal formula for a model number it would be a model 1054 but they already had a 1054 model at the time. They may have just reversed the last 2 digits and carried on. Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 51,712 #24 Posted July 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: If they had used their normal formula for a model number it would be a model 1054 but they already had a 1054 model at the time. They may have just reversed the last 2 digits and carried on. Garry, we all know that a "5" center number means electric start and a "7" means Automatic. I think a "4" center number means "We had some fenders left over from '64 and developed a '65 model to use them up." PS, the Ponds were well known for being thrifty! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill in VA 1,366 #25 Posted July 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Sparky said: @Wild Bill in VA ...you're referring to it as a 1964, but is it a 1964 or 1965 model? I was of the assumption the last number in the model number (1045) denoted the model year. Sparky it is a 1964 year model Wheel Horse. Oh yeah don't tell your neighbor Anthony that a Briggs and Stratton is really a low grade economy Tecumseh ! Wild Bill in Richmond, VA 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites