wheel stopped spinning in 3rd

[857lover 284]

i just noticed that on this new 6 speed that when i get stuck usually the wheels would keep just spinning and digging a hole but it doesn’t do that the wheels just stop trying to turn and the belt stopped moving because my wheels stopped moving why is this ? 

[Handy Don 10,608]

Worn or wrong size belt or contaminated belt surface are likely. However, the horse will slip the belt before it'll stall the engine so if you are really locked up, that'll be the reason.

[cschannuth 3,795]

The belt is slipping on the engine pulley. 

[WHX?? 46,797]

what kind of belt and what condition is the belt in ?

[857lover 284]

9 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

what kind of belt and what condition is the belt in ?

it’s a brand new belt it’s one of those blue ones i forget the brand and it’s a 70 inch belt  and it’s all strange when it’s in 3rd high you let out the clutch to move and it starts slow and kind of builds up speed 

Edited March 13, 2022 by 857lover

[857lover 284]

1 hour ago, Handy Don said:

Worn or wrong size belt or contaminated belt surface are likely. However, the horse will slip the belt before it'll stall the engine so if you are really locked up, that'll be the reason.

it’s just weird it only does it in 3rd high

[wallfish 15,925]

You need a stronger spring for the pedal return. 3rd gear applies the most force on the belt and it's slipping on the engine pulley as noted

Edited March 13, 2022 by wallfish

[953 nut 51,721]

the closer to one to one your engine to axle gear ratio comes the higher the demand you are placing on the belt. Stronger spring or a shorter belt will probably do the trick.

[lynnmor 6,783]

22 minutes ago, 857lover said:

it’s just weird it only does it in 3rd high

 

Not weird at all, it takes more torque to get things turning with less gear reduction. 

[857lover 284]

1 hour ago, wallfish said:

You need a stronger spring for the pedal return. 3rd gear applies the most force on the belt and it's slipping on the engine pulley as noted

is the spring from a 6 speed diffrent than the one on a 3speed

 

[Handy Don 10,608]

Just now, 857lover said:

is the spring from a 6 speed diffrent than the one on a 3speed

 

You can find this yourself.

Search in the Files/Document section of this site for the Illustrated Parts Manuals (IPM) for both your tractor and the donor tractor (probably a 1067). Look at the part numbers.

[Pullstart 59,733]

You could try using your toe and pulling the clutch pedal back.  That would simulate what @wallfish is saying…

[oldlineman 1,450]

All of the above. Bob    

[peter lena 8,069]

@857lover  would go over every linkage point with aerosol lubricant , make the rust run out , grease related fittings , that linkage should work seamlessly , this is only a basic idea, don't know what the related areas are like , pete

[squonk 38,937]

You're going off roading. You do not have stock sized pullies. A 70" belt may not be the  correct length. Are your pullies  the same width? The same profile? 

 

Also The used transmission may have worn hubs /axle keyways. The load you're putting on it may be enough to make them slip.

 

How about some pictures so we can see your pulley belt set up? 

Edited March 14, 2022 by squonk

[857lover 284]

3 hours ago, squonk said:

You're going off roading. You do not have stock sized pullies. A 70" belt may not be the  correct length. Are your pullies  the same width? The same profile? 

 

Also The used transmission may have worn hubs /axle keyways. The load you're putting on it may be enough to make them slip.

 

How about some pictures so we can see your pulley belt set up? 

i will definitely grab some pictures after work but  i have noticed my right hub keeps sliding back and forth like my set screw isn’t doing anything but also the trans pulley is a 4 inch diameter which is the same size as the one on my 3speed only difference is the bore is smaller 

Edited March 14, 2022 by 857lover

[squonk 38,937]

That rt. hub is probably your entire issue. What pulley are you running on the engine? 

 

[857lover 284]

52 minutes ago, squonk said:

That rt. hub is probably your entire issue. What pulley are you running on the engine? 

 

i’m not sure it’s the one that’s been in the tractor since i’ve owned it

[Ed Kennell 35,798]

4 hours ago, squonk said:

That rt. hub is probably your entire issue. What pulley are you running on the engine? 

 

May be Mike, but he states the belt is not moving.

[857lover 284]

1 hour ago, Ed Kennell said:

May be Mike, but he states the belt is not moving.

yea the belt dosent spin when its happening

[857lover 284]

10 hours ago, squonk said:

You're going off roading. You do not have stock sized pullies. A 70" belt may not be the  correct length. Are your pullies  the same width? The same profile? 

 

Also The used transmission may have worn hubs /axle keyways. The load you're putting on it may be enough to make them slip.

 

How about some pictures so we can see your pulley belt set up? 

 

[953 nut 51,721]

Can't be sure from the picture but the engine pulley looks wide like a "B" bely pulley, belt should be riding high in the pulley so it has the maximum side contact area.

[squonk 38,937]

Pulley on trans also doesn't look stock to me and the idler looks high like the belt is too long.

[Handy Don 10,608]

I'm more noticing that the blue fabric on the top and bottom is there but gone on the sides.

Also, as noted, belt is riding low in the groove.

DEAD BELT is my vote (new belt = better grip ✅, ride higher ✅, pull the idler down a bit more ✅)

And yeah, non-stock drive pulley on the trans but I don't think that's the issue because the belt stopped moving.

Edited March 27, 2022 by Handy Don

[squonk 38,937]

The only thing that will stop the belt is it slipping on the engine pulley