seven 202 #1 Posted January 5, 2022 These little lawn mower batteries do not cut it. If anybody has found out where to fit in a // car battery // type send a picture 🖼️🖼️ thanks Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,366 #2 Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) U1's are pretty darn good. I know @bizon mounted a car battery in the front of his WH 416-8 because U1's are pretty expensive here in Belgium. He can not use the attach a-matic no longer What problems are you having? Is the wiring good? Do you have good ground were needed? Edited January 5, 2022 by Maxwell-8 added a picture 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,924 #3 Posted January 5, 2022 @seven show us what you're using for a battery now, what are the cold cranking amps, etc 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 70,945 #4 Posted January 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, seven said: little lawn mower batteries do not cut it What ones are you using? They can be anywhere from 135 to 300 or more CCA... 4 minutes ago, Maxwell-8 said: What problems are you having? Is the wiring good? Do you have good ground were needed? I'll second the questions. What's the exact issue? Have you removed and cleaned ALL the wires one by one, end by end? FYI... My mid 70s C160 tractors can both use group 51 or 51R batteries. I have a complete NEW harness. Still a little resistant to start when it was below 20, 25⁰. I went from a 220 CCA U1 to a 400+ CCA 51. HUGE difference. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwell-8 4,366 #5 Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: roup 51 or 51R batteries Thanks, I haven't heard of those batteries. Next time I will ask for those. U1's are mostly around the 350cca around here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,924 #6 Posted January 6, 2022 That's what I have in my tractors, 2 of them are 16hps and I have no problem starting them even when the temps are near zero. Most batteries are probably 3-4 years old. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 58,164 #7 Posted January 6, 2022 An electrical system the is in poor condition won't be helped by a bigger battery. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,100 #8 Posted January 6, 2022 @seven been using BATTERY TENDERS FOR YEARS , walmart has them for about 35$ , have 3 of them wired in on my 3 horses , just a matter of plugging it in , @ebinmaine is correct with the CCA , COLD CRANKING AMPS , the higher the better , regularly plug in my tenders , just to top off a charge rate , typically get 6-7 years or more from batteries , use the walmart brand with 300 + CCA rating . would also check your tractor charging set up , might no be doing all it can , pete 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacer 3,176 #9 Posted January 6, 2022 Same here, I've got 3 twins and a K341 all running off Wally World 300 cca 'lawn mower batts' One of em is 5 yrs old. I think they are a great battery for cheap! at about $30ish. I had one fail at 2yrsand took it back without receipt just the build date on the batt -- lady looks at it and sez "go get another one"..... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,371 #10 Posted January 6, 2022 22 NF fit in old larger battery trays... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #11 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, seven said: These little lawn mower batteries do not cut it. What are you trying to cut? You should be using a saw, or maybe shears, or scissors. And don't run with them in your hand! Edited January 6, 2022 by Jeff-C175 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #12 Posted January 6, 2022 Car battery, I think 51, in my C160 with loader for 11 years. 500CCA 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seven 202 #13 Posted January 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Jeff-C175 said: What are you trying to cut? You should be using a saw, or maybe shears, or scissors. And don't run with them in your hand! -12 here and no they won't turn it over very long before they die Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,203 #14 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, seven said: -12 here and no they won't turn it over very long before they die At that temperature even a BRAND NEW battery would be down to about 50% of it's capacity. Add to that the thickerer oil and extra load of the starter. If you were to keep the battery WARM and on a battery tender, you might be OK. Ask Mrs. Google about "Car battery heater". There's another thread currently active about the same thing. I believe that fellow is also in MN. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic/96603-engine-block-heater-for-a-520/ Edited January 6, 2022 by Jeff-C175 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 50,815 #15 Posted January 6, 2022 My 520 sno movers just have U1 300 CCA batts in them and they have no problem starting in -10 but I do keep a tender on them. More for just cause they can sit more than get used but they do keep the battery more active. Finding them on the shelf anywhere at a decent price in the 430 CCA , which is what I prefer for my winter machine, is hard to find around here. You southern guys gotta remember the chemical reaction in a battery slows way down in sub zero temps which happens alot at Seven's locale. Batteries plus will have the best ones in higher CCA but they ain't exactly givin them away. Twice what a Wally World one goes for so Wally gets the nod for summer tractors. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 13,860 #16 Posted January 7, 2022 9 hours ago, seven said: -12 here and no they won't turn it over very long before they die Your battery and I have something in common... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seven 202 #17 Posted January 7, 2022 I was able to install a full size battery in up and off to the side built a special bracket out of some tube steel and flat plate looks pretty good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seven 202 #18 Posted January 7, 2022 By the way my old battery was 430 cc amps and it was an alliance battery not but 1 -1/2 years old 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 70,945 #19 Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, seven said: I was able to install a full size battery in up and off to the side built a special bracket out of some tube steel and flat plate looks pretty good. Can you snap a pic of that? Did you put in a primer bulb? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seven 202 #20 Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 8:28 PM, ebinmaine said: Can you snap a pic of that? Did you put in a primer bulb? On 1/6/2022 at 8:28 PM, ebinmaine said: Can you snap a pic of that? Did you put in a primer bulb? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seven 202 #21 Posted January 9, 2022 It won't allow me to send pictures? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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953 nut 58,164 #23 Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/6/2022 at 9:26 PM, seven said: By the way my old battery was 430 cc amps and it was an alliance battery not but 1 -1/2 years old Have you had the battery load tested at an auto parts store? This was suggested several times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
