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rj-58 tranny................ughhh!

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engineguy63

Well, gonna be more than a couple drops of WD40.....That I know !!

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8ntruck

Marvel Mystery Oil?

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oliver2-44

A wire wheel on a bench grinder or a blast cabinet with glass bead is your friend.  

You could also clean the case in an E-Tank.  That one should cleanup nicely.  

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The gears on this one were pitted badly. 

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Wheelhorse Parts and More has bearings and seals, or you can use this thread to order most of them from a local bearing supply. Note the axle seals are only available from WH Parts and More 

Here's a thread on the transmission rebuild by our Guru 

 

Please continue a thread with your rebuild. 

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roadapples

That first picture looks like a pan of lasagna 😋....

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Pullstart

Awwww. That one looks easy!  Like Jim said, there have been many much worse than that.  Another vote for an e-tank, those work wonders with rust.

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squonk

What do you with the left over "Lasagna sauce" when you are finished?

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Pullstart
5 hours ago, squonk said:

What do you with the left over "Lasagna sauce" when you are finished?


It is simply dirty washing soda.  No different than an extreme car wash or degreasing.

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Pullstart

You can also use it over and over, no matter how dirty.  It’s just water and washing soda.  NOTE that is DIFFERENT than baking soda.

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squonk

Seem to me with all the action of derusting the water would be acidic?

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stevasaurus

If you just use water and washing soda, nothing is toxic.  I feed it around my shrubbery, and it works wonders, but it is important to only use ferrous metals...copper & aluminum make it a toxic solution.  :occasion-xmas:

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EB-80/8inPA
2 hours ago, pullstart said:

You can also use it over and over, no matter how dirty.  It’s just water and washing soda.  NOTE that is DIFFERENT than baking soda.

Doesn’t the soda need replenishing after a while?

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Pullstart
17 minutes ago, EB-80/8inPA said:

Doesn’t the soda need replenishing after a while?


I imagine so, but it lasts longer than you’d think

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stevasaurus

No, it does not need replenishing because it is only making a solution that allows the electrons to move from negative to positive.  :handgestures-thumbupright:  All you have to do is scoop off the junk on the top and keep your electrodes 1/2" off the bottom.  

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squonk

Still like to do a PH test on it

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stevasaurus

The soda is a base...if the rust is acidic, it should come out neutral at best.

   Obviously, some plants like basic and some like more acidic.  I am not really sure how basic or acidic the solution is.  I know it is not toxic, that is what is important.  You can dump it outside with out harming the environment.  Don't potatoes like acidic...Blue Agave ???  My grape vines seem to like it a lot.  :occasion-xmas:

 

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squonk

You would think will all the gases produced it would get nasty. I read online it's safe to dump

 

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stevasaurus

Produces Hydrogen...that's all I know.  You want to do this in a ventilated area for sure.  BTW, so does charging a battery.

 

I wonder how acidic the poop from your metal chickens is Mike.   Brown spots in the yard???   :ROTF:

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stevasaurus

You know, if you are that worried about PH...test it and add lime to neutralize the acid...it is still not toxic.  :eusa-think:

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squonk
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I've used vinegar to de-rust. Takes a while but works pretty good. Leaves the same brown gooey water. Neutralize it with baking soda when done. Makes gravel the color of the metal you de-rusted! :)

 

Remember the little rocket that came in the Gilbert chemistry sets? a little vinegar and baking soda and it's launch time! :banana-dreads:

 

Archival Gleanings from the Chemical Heritage Foundation - Rebecca Onion

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stevasaurus

OK...I am not really a glove guy.  I have taken case halves, gears & shafts out of the solution, rinsed them and dried them off, then wire brushed them clean and I have only begun to grow a 6th finger.  In fact, if I float that finger in a Whiskey Sour...boom-sha-ka-lac-a.  :occasion-xmas:

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AMC RULES

:rolleyes: Are you sure that's really a finger?

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stevasaurus

What else would you float in a Whiskey Sour????   DAH!!!   :occasion-xmas:

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formariz
On 10/7/2021 at 12:41 PM, squonk said:

What do you with the left over "Lasagna sauce" when you are finished?

I have dumped it on the lawn and that area always turns into a much darker area from all the iron. When dumped around an Hydrangea if the flowers are reddish they will turn to the natural blue in a short time due to the acidity.

I have never had an adverse reaction from dumping it anywhere.

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Gregor
On 10/7/2021 at 12:15 PM, Pullhosen’s Pony Express said:

It’s just water and washing soda.  NOTE that is DIFFERENT than baking soda.

Washing soda isn't as easily available as you might think. Even the Walmart stores around here don't carry it on the shelves. I just watched a video on how to turn baking soda into washing soda. Took about 10 - 15 minutes. Just cook it on the stove, at high heat, until it quits bubbling. Stirring constantly.

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Pullstart

Odd @Gregor.  I have two boxes in the shop that came from a store, or maybe the jungle… I don’t recall.  When you boil baking soda to make washing soda, do you use water too, or just dry?

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