TOra 1 #1 Posted March 20, 2021 Do I need to drain the Engine Oil when I Stand the Rider on its end for any length of time. I checked through all literature and it does not mention draining the Engine oil thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOra 1 #2 Posted March 20, 2021 Re previous post my Toro Wheelhorse model is 110-4, grateful for any advice thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,401 #3 Posted March 20, 2021 I do not know the answer but suspect this operator manual will help Click on the picture Garry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,847 #4 Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) It looks a lot like my old Snapper. It's made to be stood on end. This doesn't say anything about the battery, but if it were mine, I would remove it. If it has one of course Edited March 20, 2021 by Gregor 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evanloock 236 #5 Posted March 20, 2021 I believe that model had a swinging battery tray. When the tractor was stood on end, the battery tray swung keeping the battery upright. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evanloock 236 #6 Posted March 20, 2021 From a 1988 brochure. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gregor 4,847 #7 Posted March 20, 2021 OK My Snapper didn't have that! Whooda thunk ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 66,187 #8 Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) Not knowing your model, we typically stand a garden tractor with the nose high to get old oil over the cast hump in a transmission. You can typically get all the oil out of the engine while on all fours. Edited March 20, 2021 by pullstart Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,206 #9 Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, TOra said: Do I need to drain the Engine Oil when I Stand the Rider on its end for any length of time. I checked through all literature and it does not mention draining the Engine oil thanks Perhaps an explanation of WHY you are asking would net more relevant answers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOra 1 #10 Posted March 20, 2021 Wheelhorse Tora 110-4 which I bought from new in 1991, it has been in storage for 26 years. I have got it started but want to check condition of blade and also store it in the vertical position I have checked original manual and it says you can store it vertically and shows a photo of it vertical in the manual and gives a description of procedure, it does not say that you have to drain the oil. I am concerned that if I do not drain the oil it might creat a problem 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff-C175 7,206 #11 Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TOra said: I am concerned that if I do not drain the oil it might creat a problem I can't answer the question, not familiar with your machine, but understand the concern. I know that some engines when you tip them sideways and let them sit that way the oil can get into combustion chamber seeping past the rings over time... and when you try to start it, very bad things can happen. Refrigeration compressors often have this warning on them for basically the same reason, and also the reason for the warnings on the shipping cartons about not tipping. Does the manual say anything about righting the machine and letting it sit that way for a period of time before starting? On the side of caution I would probably right the machine, let it sit that way for say 24 hours, then pull the plugs and crank it over for a bit to be sure the combustion chambers are not full of oil. Edited March 20, 2021 by Jeff-C175 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 13,743 #12 Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) I have a late 90's Snapper rider with a 12.5 HP vertical shaft and it specifically permits being stored on end (with oil inside) BUT only with the battery removed--otherwise upend it for only an hour for maintenance. I do stand it to hone the blade and clean the underside of the deck at two or three times a season. I tend not to run it afterward until the next mowing opportunity, though, and I store it on its wheels. As @Jeff-C175 explained, its how the engine is oriented that matters. If no battery involved, the fuel system cannot leak, and neither the cylinder nor the crankcase vent are pointed downward, the odds are better that upright storage will not cause problems. Upright storage was a big selling point in the 90's so since the manual says its permitted, and since it doesn't mention oil removal, you are probably ok. Edited March 20, 2021 by Handy Don 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TJ5208 1,824 #14 Posted March 21, 2021 Depends which way your standing it my dad's hustler you do the same thing well he has two hustlers that's my Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 59,388 #15 Posted March 21, 2021 20 hours ago, TOra said: I have checked original manual and it says you can store it vertically and shows a photo of it vertical in the manual and gives a description of procedure, it does not say that you have to drain the oil. If your unit has the pivoting battery tray this shouldn't be a problem. I would remove a battery cable and drain all of the fuel prior to storage but your engine oil shouldn't be a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,194 #16 Posted March 21, 2021 worked for a guy that had the snapper version of that , probably the same thing , anyway , he would regularly stand it on end for oil changes and grease jobs , as well as mower deck scraping , ( what a concept ) did that after cutting , dumping hot black oil . that he then brushed on to the under side of the deck to stop rust. that's what started me on my lubrication based saving of mechanical equipment. even used dirty oil will , stop rust and preserve metal . just my own experience , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
