Tire replacement ?

[Mikefeds 15]

Purchased a set of new Carlisle tires to replace the cracked rear shoes on the C-141.   Not being an expert in this area, if the tires say tubeless, Can I mount the tires directly on the rims, adding new stems of course, without the inner tubes ?

 

The Toro master parts viewer shows inner tubes for both the front and rear tires...  TIA 

[ebinmaine 72,987]

17 minutes ago, Mikefeds said:

if the tires say tubeless, Can I mount the tires directly on the rims, adding new stems of course, without the inner tubes

Absolutely. 

I use inner tubes on purpose though. 

I find it easier to set the bead of the tires with the tubes in place. 

[Mikefeds 15]

Eric, are there cheaper priced inner tubes than the ones listed on the Toro Dealer or Parts Tree websites ?  

[ebinmaine 72,987]

Oh yeah. 

 

I've found in recent years that even the "better name brand's" tubes are imports. 

 

I've had a tube from firestone and a cheapie in my hands at the same time.

 

I'm NOT saying the rubber composition is the same... BUT  the look and feel sure were. 

 

I just get mine off the fleabay or jungle site. 

It's important to note that tubes have a much longer life in most circumstances than tires because tubes aren't directly in the sunlight. 

[SylvanLakeWH 28,589]

As usual, @ebinmaine’s got it covered... 

 

I run tubes as well...

[8ntruck 7,877]

I put a new set of Carlisle Turf Masters on the back of my Horse last year.  Mounted them tubeless.  One holds air, the other has a slow leak.  

 

I guess the moral of the story is to make sure your rims and tires are clean when mounting tubeless.

 

Hindsight being 20/20, I'll go with tubes next time.

Edited November 26, 2020 by 8ntruck

[JAinVA 4,638]

I always run tubes for the reason Eric points out. It is much easier to get the bead to seat. These are the only tires I have mounted with out tubes. They were touching the bead surface once mounted and will be filled with RV antifreeze.  The fronts have one tube and one is tubeless This is the second I have had a new tube leak .

Edited November 26, 2020 by JAinVA

[Pullstart 67,042]

2 hours ago, 8ntruck said:

I put a new set of Carlisle Turf Masters on the back of my Horse last year.  Mounted them tubeless.  One holds air, the other has a slow leak.  

 

I guess the moral of the story is to make sure your rims and tires are clean when mounting tubeless.

 

Hindsight being 20/20, I'll go with tubes next time.

If you get back over this way, we can break the leaky stubborn one down and head seal it Bill 

[Pullstart 67,042]

As mentioned above, if I go tubeless I grabbed a can of bead sealer from the parts store.  It’s like black rubber cement to help seal the tire on the rim.

[8ntruck 7,877]

7 minutes ago, pullstart said:

If you get back over this way, we can break the leaky stubborn one down and head seal it Bill 

I've still got a little bit of cart work yet to do this fall with the tractor.  Probably try to get your way in a couple of weeks.

 

I've seen a thin coating of grease used in the bead seats to seal tires on a slightly rusty rim.