PeacemakerJack 10,738 #26 Posted September 29, 2020 2 hours ago, The Tuul Crib said: ...machinery that had three point hitch you could do just about anything with. Why not a miniature version of the pull behind scraper blade on a three point hitch? Search for Category 0 implements. “Pretty much” anything under that heading will work as long as it isn’t “powered”. If It is powered—like a rear tiller and/or finish mower then you have to make sure that it is Super C specific or that it can be adapted to work with your skill set. Otherwise it won’t work. Most ground engaged implements that are Cat 0 like a rear blade, 12” Brinly plow, Cat 0 disc, etc will work just fine. I’m looking forward to expanding my collection of Cat 0 implements as I now have several GT’s with hookups... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,335 #27 Posted September 29, 2020 So then a 48 blade will mount with no problem only its one for a long frame? Not sure yet if it has a mowing deck with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,335 #28 Posted September 30, 2020 So I just got done taking a look at this tractor in this thread. This tractor is all their meaning the fender in the seat with a little wear. Has a three point hitch and the engine has 640 hours. Just needs a little tuneup and fluid changes you're good to go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,018 #29 Posted September 30, 2020 Is the price reasonable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,335 #30 Posted September 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Is the price reasonable? Oh h""l no!! He wants 1000 for it but I know that it is every bit of its worth. The only rust I saw was in one of the typical corners of the deck. Otherwise it's all there but unfortunately I can't swing it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,117 #31 Posted September 30, 2020 Depending on how clean...price isn't too crazy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,117 #32 Posted September 30, 2020 Especially with the 3pt...easily $300 for that setup alone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,165 #33 Posted September 30, 2020 1000 for the wheel horse, or 1200 for this at lowes, what would you want 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,018 #34 Posted September 30, 2020 6 hours ago, jabelman said: 1000 for the wheel horse, or 1200 for this at lowes, what would you want I'll reply later. ... On my way to Lowe's now. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeacemakerJack 10,738 #35 Posted September 30, 2020 While you are on your way to Lowe’s, I’m about to grab Pullstart, a grand, and do a test run on Norman headed for Tennessee 🤔😉😂 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pollack Pete 2,273 #36 Posted September 30, 2020 Don't think a grand is a really bad price.I mean,seriously,how much did you really think he wanted for it? I do think he's asking a fair price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,335 #37 Posted September 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, Pollack Pete said: Don't think a grand is a really bad price.I mean,seriously,how much did you really think he wanted for it? I do think he's asking a fair price. I had no idea. I have never seen one of these before really didn't know the value or the rarity of what it is. Like I said it is all there one rust hole in the deck on the top side in the normal spot. Trouble is He's leaving on Thursday to tour and won't be back for another month I don't even think I would have to trailer it home it's that close! how would that work for what's in your mirror?! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,335 #38 Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, PeacemakerJack said: While you are on your way to Lowe’s, I’m about to grab Pullstart, a grand, and do a test run on Norman headed for Tennessee 🤔😉😂 You're all welcome here. Be like a wheel horse gathering in the neighborhood. We can gang up on the yellow ones in the green ones! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,586 #39 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 4:10 PM, sqrlgtr said: Tuul remember Im just right up the road from you and if you decide to pass let me know I might be interested in it if you are not.....I mean you already suckered me out of a tiller Balls in your court guy..... go get it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sqrlgtr 552 #40 Posted September 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, WHX24 said: Balls in your court guy..... go get it! oh...Im still thinking hard on it.I mean its just money the print some more every day .I just dont see much of it lol.... 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,586 #41 Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, sqrlgtr said: .I just dont see much of it lol... Ain't that the truth! Yah it's only money and I ain't never seen a armored truck following a hearse! See if you can dicker him down to say... 800 now that would be a deal! Edited September 30, 2020 by WHX24 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wh500special 2,156 #42 Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) I think Wheel Horse values have tanked in the last several years, but the C-195 has tended to retain much of its worth. The discussions early in this thread were kind of sowing the seeds of hope that you’d get it for dirt cheap, but I would have really been surprised if that happened. I would have been happy for you though. If you want it or need it that thing is probably worth his $1000 asking price. You’re not likely to find another one so close to home in a long time…maybe ever unless a local collector ends up with one they imported and decide to unload. They were expensive and not very common when new since practically the same money would buy a nicer and more modern John Deere or Cub Cadet. I think it was easier for the JD and CC dealerships to move the bigger stuff since they were also in the real tractor business and had a different crowd walking through the door. Wheel Horse dealers were fundamentally selling suburban tractors to suburban owners, not utility tractors to large property owners. Besides that, people used to do more with less so it wasn’t uncommon for a person with an acre yard to mow with a 36” deck. A 4-footer was a real acre-taker in those days, so the 60” deck was a comparative monster. If you can negotiate him lower, great. But I wouldn’t expect him to have trouble selling it with a listing on this site or elsewhere since he’ll easily find someone willing to travel for it. If it was any other C-XX5 series then it wouldn’t have the same gestalt or appeal. It would be just another 40-year old red thing. But the C-195 is different since it was WH’s final salvo at staying in the Super Garden Tractor market. I don’t remember the complete story about these, but the gist of things is that some dealers convinced Wheel Horse they could sell a heavy duty tractor to replace the rather unwieldy D-auto series. So WH put the team to work beefing up the venerable C-series platform to take bigger attachments. Who knows how many design hours went into the wacky rear PTO arrangement that they conjured. It was a flop. Very poor seller. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth by the bigshots. They probably only built enough to finish out the initial runs of special parts that had to be made. I thought the number was in the 400’s that they sold, but maybe it was more. The least common was the 1984 model. Even the German/French/Italian D250 oddity sold in larger numbers than the whole run of C-195’s…but that was another sore spot wherein it took nearly a decade to sell three model years’ worth of tractors. Anyway, I looked for one for years. YEARS. Even living in South Bend for a while I found they were in short supply and generally not for sale. Eventually I ended up with three of them from three different states, the last one coming from close to home. They’re all gone now. It’s been a while, so this is foggy but I think the regular 48” mower decks fit these tractors. I think there is an interference problem with the rear gage wheels and rear tractor tires on the 42’s. The 60” deck is specific to this tractor and was made by Ariens with a lot of the Ariens bracing removed, so it’s a bit wiggly and flexible (recall some of the guys on here years ago called them the flexible flier). The front “mule” pulley box only has one pulley for routing the belt to the 60" deck, the other one is mounted to the tractor frame below the engine. I’ve seen a 520 style 60” deck under a C195, so it apparently can work. I’m pretty sure these require a longer A-frame on the dozer blades so you have to use the D-series stuff, which is a plus since the blades are bigger too. Wouldn’t be surprised if a 520 style extension would get you the extra length. Regular snowthrowers fit, but the lifting tube is different since it needs to be longer. The “flag” is also different. I don’t know if the 2-stage snowblower fits or not. Probably doesn't matter in Tennessee. The normal 36” WH tiller doesn’t work, although I’m sure you can gin up some kind of adapter to make it work and get the belt back there. These were designed to take the 38”/50” 3-pt mounted, PTO driven tiller from the D-autos. But you need the rear PTO kit with the incredibly long V-belt that routes power from the engine pulley up, down, and all around to the rear of the tractor. The WH three point hitch was a category 0 and I never ran into any fit problems with any third party implement. If you have the rear PTO, matching implements need to be 2000 RPM with matching rotation (CW if you are standing behind tractor looking at the PTO shaft). These were better tractors than the D-series in every way. They have better traction and are certainly more user friendly. For whatever reason I don’t think they suffered rear end failure like the D’s or frame failures like some of the other C’s. I guess the differential bolts were better and the Eaton was a stronger transmission. $1000 is a lot of money, but the seller is certainly not out of line in his price. I'm not looking to talk you into this, just offering some background. Steve Edited September 30, 2020 by wh500special had to insert line breaks... 3 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,586 #43 Posted September 30, 2020 Thanks for schooling Steve. Your wisdom never fails to amaze me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wh500special 2,156 #44 Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, WHX24 said: Thanks for schooling Steve. Your wisdom never fails to amaze me. Thanks for the compliment. Unfortunately it's a mark of wasted youth. I should have been out drinking beer and chasing women. Maybe there is still time. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,600 #45 Posted September 30, 2020 @PeacemakerJack narrated @wh500special’s post a bit ago for me, what an undertaking to write that all down and stay on point! Great post! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,586 #46 Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, wh500special said: should have been out drinking beer and chasing women. Don't worry ...I did enough for both of us in my youth! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herder 2,354 #47 Posted September 30, 2020 19 hours ago, The Tuul Crib said: Oh h""l no!! He wants 1000 for it but I know that it is every bit of its worth. The only rust I saw was in one of the typical corners of the deck. Otherwise it's all there but unfortunately I can't swing it. $#!T Haggle! He's leaving, cash is worth more in the hand! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,335 #48 Posted September 30, 2020 Another C just popped up down the road a little bit . C191 three point hitch and pto in the front . What is the difference? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bds1984 1,428 #49 Posted September 30, 2020 A C191 is not a machine I have ever heard of. Are you sure that is right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,335 #50 Posted September 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, bds1984 said: A C191 is not a machine I have ever heard of. Are you sure that is right? Well at least that it is what it said on the ad but the more I think about it that also looks and sounds like a 195. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
