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Ags Vs Studs

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71_Bronco

Recently picked up a '62 Lawn Ranger, and it has the factory "stud" style tires on it.

 

Was thinking about possibly swapping them out for a set of Carlisle Power trac ags.

 

For a general fun lawn toy, how would these ags do compared to "stud" tires? Will they be more prone to tearing up grass? Or would it not make much of a difference? Or am I over-thinking it, and as a lawn toy, it really wouldnt matter?

 

Also, on a side not, I was thinking about a way to put dual wheels on this tractor. I saw the Lawn Ranger that @wheelhorseman has, with the dual ags, and it looks super cool.

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ebinmaine

You tear grass when you lose traction.

 

No spinning tires, no problem.

 

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pfrederi
Just now, ebinmaine said:

You tear grass when you lose traction.

 

No spinning tires, no problem.

 

Partly true but when you make tight turns with ags they can tear turf.

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Lee1977
3 hours ago, pfrederi said:

Partly true but when you make tight turns with ags they can tear turf.

That Lawn Ranger is so light probably won't hurt the grass . 

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71_Bronco

I think I may end up going Studs to be honest. I like that they aren't as common as ags, and are more "true" to the original tires that came on the Lawn Ranger.

 

Plus, I've always liked the look of these tires.

 

Just have to figure out how to do the duals with the tiny 8" wheels now.

 

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ebinmaine
3 minutes ago, 71_Bronco said:

how to do the duals

Never tried it myself but I've seen where folks use the appropriate diameter of PVC pipe that will fit on the inside of the rim at the flat spot. Long carriage bolts or threaded rod to hold the wheels squeezed together. 

 

 

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71_Bronco
Just now, ebinmaine said:

Never tried it myself but I've seen where folks use the appropriate diameter of PVC pipe that will fit on the inside of the rim at the flat spot. Long carriage bolts or threaded rod to hold the wheels squeezed together. 

 

 

 

I've seen that too. But the 8" wheels dont have the 4 holes that wheel weights mount to.

 

These are the wheels I'm looking at getting.

 

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ebinmaine

I want to put a disclaimer of

 

I'm no expert. 

 

In front of this next suggestion.

 

What about using five pieces of threaded rod in the place of the wheel studs?

 

Put it through the back of the hub enough to get a nut on.

Like we have to use a crows foot wrench head to tighten against the wheel.

Insert PVC ring.

Add second rim and carefully torque evenly all around.

 

Not sure if that suggestion is any good or not.

 

Also dawned on me. Don't forget to keep the air pressure in the outside tire low.

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71_Bronco

I had 2 ideas that may work.

 

One was to build something like these, but with 5 spacers. Run a single bolt through the outer wheel, through the tub, through the inner wheel, and into the hub.

 

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Other thought was to build 2 flanges like the pic below. Bolt on the inner wheel and spacer onto the hub, then bolt the outer wheel to the spacer.

 

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ebinmaine

Both of those would work great.

 

Both designs are quite strong. I would lean towards the lower one that is black. Only because the flanges look thicker to me. 

 

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WVHillbilly520H
5 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

Both of those would work great.

 

Both designs are quite strong. I would lean towards the lower one that is black. Only because the flanges look thicker to me. 

 

The red ones bolt in the "weight" holes.

 

21 hours ago, pfrederi said:

Partly true but when you make tight turns with ags they "can" tear turf.

I run them year 'round on my 520s with the super tight turn radius and don't tear up my grass and are fluid filled and iron weights to boot.

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Pullstart

I bet you could transfer a set of 3 or 4 holes in the 8” wheels to build dually spacers :handgestures-thumbupright:

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