clueless 3,263 #1 Posted July 19, 2020 It seems to me there's been a lot of, it runs fine for 10 to 15 minutes then just stops, posts lately . Thoughts? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pollack Pete 2,273 #2 Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) Spell E-T-H-A-N-O-L put in our gas by people who are going to save the planet.With all the crap going on in the world,I personally think it's too late. Edited July 19, 2020 by Pollack Pete 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunahead72 2,554 #3 Posted July 19, 2020 Or sometimes it's an electrical problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 28,594 #4 Posted July 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, clueless said: It seems to me there's been a lot of, it runs fine for 10 to 15 minutes then just stops, posts lately . Thoughts? I have noticed as well... Could be as @Pollack Pete says... I think he's right... or... Maybe some thing far more sinister -- our horses are getting wifi somehow and are succumbing to the average attention span of today's social media addicted / educated society... work 10 minutes - check out FB, Instagram, Snapchat or RS...work 10 minutes...check out... repeat... 4 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,940 #5 Posted July 19, 2020 Also a lot of engine noise/smoking. Lets face it fellas. These things aren't going to last forever. I think there's going to be a demand for low hour used engines in the future. And with a lot of machine shops either closing or not doing small engines, it's going to get worse. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roadapples 6,983 #6 Posted July 19, 2020 I have a C160 that had this problem for at least two years. Sometimes it would run 45 minutes, the next time 15. Sometimes the choke would help so I knew it was fuel related. Rebuilt carb and cleaned a couple times. Cleaned tank and replaced shutoff with new screen type. Tried fuel pump off of working tractor. Replaced filter and hose more than once. Still acted like it was running out of gas. So I got clear(purplish tint) fuel line so I could see what was going on. It was running out of gas even with the the gas cap off. I put an electric fuel pump on. Problem solved. And this fuel line is supposed to be good for 100% ethonal... 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,309 #7 Posted July 19, 2020 clueless , agree with you on that stopping issue, i regularly add STABIL to any fuel that i add and have had no issues with that . i also regularly keep in touch with the horses , and do not wait for a fix or other issue. having 3 horses lets me regularly improve on any issue ,and what ever solid fix i come up with , is added to the others , they are all basically the same , 1982, 1991, 1993. having mag engines on all three , i changed over to a common magnum start switch , from the rop shop , also replaced all the regulators , much improved engine/frame grounding to battery dash point. my electric fuel pump swap , over to CARBOLE MICRO ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP , mounted to a UNI STRUT BRACE , IS VERY SOLID AND SILENT . we have all had problems, the repetition of it is your best trace starting point . pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 8,435 #8 Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, clueless said: it runs fine for 10 to 15 minutes then just stops, posts lately Website? I have not had any issue but have not been doing a whole lot lately. Maybe a couple of heavy hitters will chime in? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 3,263 #9 Posted July 19, 2020 I would agree with the ethanol, but some of these post say after it sits awhile, fires back up and runs fine for 10 to 15 min. then stops again. That would seem to indicate a heat or vacuum issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,339 #10 Posted July 19, 2020 To hot for anything right now Dang Its hot!! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pollack Pete 2,273 #11 Posted July 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Tuul Crib said: To hot for anything right now Dang Its hot!! Yup.95 Degrees in upstate NY right now.Daughter,son-in-law and Grand Daughter coming over for a little cook out later this afternoon.Grand daughter graduated from high school a week ago.Had to watch her get her awards and diploma on zoom via internet.What a world!!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,339 #12 Posted July 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Pollack Pete said: Yup.95 Degrees in upstate NY right now.Daughter,son-in-law and Grand Daughter coming over for a little cook out later this afternoon.Grand daughter graduated from high school a week ago.Had to watch her get her awards and diploma on zoom via internet.What a world!!!!! Crazy isn't it ? it's just not fair to these graduates to have to go through all this. But maybe later on down the road they'll have something to tell their grandchildren. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scWHhauler 96 #13 Posted July 19, 2020 Squonk you have said the best of the 2 mechine shops located here in the low country that worked on smal engines one has closed and the other will close next year. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19richie66 17,655 #14 Posted July 19, 2020 8 hours ago, peter lena said: . my electric fuel pump swap , over to CARBOLE MICRO ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP , mounted to a UNI STRUT BRACE , IS VERY SOLID AND SILENT . we have all had problems, the repetition of it is your best trace starting point . pete Would love to see pictures of your setup.👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19richie66 17,655 #15 Posted July 19, 2020 6 hours ago, The Tuul Crib said: To hot for anything right now Dang Its hot!! Was 108 Thursday when I left work and today was 98 in the parking lot. I’m drenched by 6:30 if I am not working in front of a fan. A BIG fan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,339 #16 Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) Im hopping this will pass soon ! The cabinet shop where l work is hotter than h e double tooth pick!! Edited July 19, 2020 by The Tuul Crib Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,339 #17 Posted July 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, scWHhauler said: Squonk you have said the best of the 2 mechine shops located here in the low country that worked on smal engines one has closed and the other will close next year. The machine shop that I go to I hope it doesn't close down. The guy is cheap and does a really good job. His name is gold with hot Rod Magazine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,353 #18 Posted July 20, 2020 9 hours ago, squonk said: Also a lot of engine noise/smoking. Lets face it fellas. These things aren't going to last forever. I think there's going to be a demand for low hour used engines in the future. And with a lot of machine shops either closing or not doing small engines, it's going to get worse. 43 minutes ago, scWHhauler said: Squonk you have said the best of the 2 mechine shops located here in the low country that worked on smal engines one has closed and the other will close next year. I will be sending a K-241 to a shop in New York City because the closest one to me (three hour round trip) closed down and the next closest one wants $ 120 to cut a cylinder. With shipping both ways the one in NYC will be $ 90.00. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 9,309 #19 Posted July 20, 2020 19RICHIE66 , this is my set up , i had an ignition key switch literally fall apart causing a short and a pump problem . replaced the switch and the pump with the carbole micro pump, much stronger than the one i had . the UNI STRUT BRACKET shown is so solid ,there is no pump noise at all from it. liked the relay idea , spo i built that in too. seperate photo of strut bracket on top of engine shows its strength, probably get one at an electrical supply shop. did this set up on my 82 c-85 franken horse , lots of experimenting on it . did a 12 magnum swap last year . frame already had a drilled hole , next to clutch swing point , used that . so far it works like a champ , no issues at all , hope this helps you out , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,339 #20 Posted July 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, 953 nut said: I will be sending a K-241 to a shop in New York City because the closest one to me (three hour round trip) closed down and the next closest one wants $ 120 to cut a cylinder. With shipping both ways the one in NYC will be $ 90.00. I just took my 16 horse to my machinist which is about 25 minutes away from here. I had the block bored out to 30 over he's pressing in new valve guides and reaming them out to fit the valves and also grind the valve seats. All this for 70 bucks cash 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 10,781 #21 Posted July 20, 2020 2 hours ago, The Tuul Crib said: I just took my 16 horse to my machinist which is about 25 minutes away from here. I had the block bored out to 30 over he's pressing in new valve guides and reaming them out to fit the valves and also grind the valve seats. All this for 70 bucks cash Were you wearing a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuneup 1,452 #22 Posted July 20, 2020 Yeah, right? Where can I get those 1965 prices? Tell me more about this machinist. No one here south of you and I'm sure I'll be needing one. Maybe everyone can post their machinist's info and we can glue it in the Engines section? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,339 #23 Posted July 20, 2020 His name is Jim Simpkins. He has done this for years . Hes known thru out the High perform circle and Hot Rod magazine for his work. He is up there in the years and still going strong. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim.0 39 #24 Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 8:16 AM, clueless said: It seems to me there's been a lot of, it runs fine for 10 to 15 minutes then just stops, posts lately . Thoughts? can you pull the choke to keep it running? When it shuts off have you pulled your fuel line to check fuel pressure or have you checked spark? With heat developing after 10 to 15 minutes is something expanding as you said vacuum leak? something else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 51,912 #25 Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 7:10 PM, 953 nut said: With shipping both ways the one in NYC will be $ 90.00. That's unbelievable Richard.... shipping a block alone is a killer! On 7/19/2020 at 7:32 PM, The Tuul Crib said: All this for 70 bucks cash That's even more unbelievable although my guy cut a block & .010 under crank for 120. Cash is king he says. https://www.jrcentllc.com/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites