What did you do today?

[adsm08 4,726]

43 minutes ago, Beap52 said:

How is this done?

 

Mostly with a USB drive and boredom.

[Handy Don 16,841]

2 hours ago, Beap52 said:

So what I'm reading is that a fellow has to update the software on the new vehicle computers?  How is this done? 

Most newer vehicles have multiple computing modules. There are nearly 20 in my 2022. The largest is typically the “head end unit” that drives the infotainment but others include direct engine management, emissions, anti-lock/traction control braking, AWD engagement, lighting (interior and exterior), the instrument panel, cameras, distance sensors, and more.

Each module typically has some “firmware”--usually programmed at manufacture and more or less permanent, as well as some replaceable programming. My car recently received an update that completely changed the appearance of the entire driver’s instrument panel (which is actually a 4” x 12” computer display) as well as how the central screen gives access to settings like driving mode (regular vs. off-road) and more.

 

On my car there is a separate module just to manage a connected trailer's lighting, brakes, etc. which has its own programming. Connecting a trailer’s plug lets me run a preset check of the trailer’s lighting and it also turns off some car features like the blind spot detector and the “you’re getting to close” backup warning and braking which would be confused by having a trailer attached!

 

As well, if the manufacturers discover issues with, say, displaying camera views or they need to change the engine management or braking operation, they can create new software to make those things happen. 

 

New or changed “replaceable” software is delivered either at a dealer, where the tech connects a cable or a flash drive to a socket in the car and transfers it onto the needed module, or over the air (OTA), where the car has a WiFi or cellular data connection of its own (like a data-only cell phone) and the car reaches out to the manufacturer’s distribution computer and asks for the update. (Just like using the App Store on your phone, but automated.)

 

Edited yesterday at 01:10 AM by Handy Don

[MainelyWheelhorse 2,756]

At my job, the system my hand held and scanner run off of gets updates every so often. Like car updates and computer update, Some go well and others are a cluster, losing locations or other stuff. For example, the bread in a certain aisle will magically disappear according to the system. Not a big deal but it’s a bit of a bigger deal when you are timed and a goal is set to be reached for that order. Isn’t technology great😁

[19richie66 17,907]

8 hours ago, Handy Don said:

 the “you’re getting to close” backup warning and braking which would be confused by having a trailer attached!

 

If I leave my hitch in and let the tailgate down, the backup camera and alarm beeper freaks out.

[19richie66 17,907]

I got to watch these hard working men put up my new hangout. Over 100 degrees here today and they showed up at 10am and left at 8:40pm. Back this morning for the roof. Plan on sealing the floor this afternoon when it cools off 

[Ed Kennell 46,388]

1 hour ago, 19richie66 said:

. Back this morning for the roof. 

Any insulation under the roof to prevent indoor rain?

[19richie66 17,907]

4 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

Any insulation under the roof to prevent indoor rain?

Yes sir. They installed it and the sheetmetal this morning. Future meet and greet spot hopefully.

[adsm08 4,726]

19 hours ago, Handy Don said:

) and the car reaches out to the manufacturer’s distribution computer and asks for the update.

 

Actually, it is typically pushed from the manufacturer's end. The car just allows it if typical usage says the vehicle should be in "down time".

 

Much like your home PC, the car doesn't know it needs updated unless the manufacturer tells it so.

[adsm08 4,726]

17 hours ago, MainelyWheelhorse said:

Isn’t technology great😁

 

Only until it isn't.

[Handy Don 16,841]

2 hours ago, adsm08 said:

 

Actually, it is typically pushed from the manufacturer's end. The car just allows it if typical usage says the vehicle should be in "down time".

 

Much like your home PC, the car doesn't know it needs updated unless the manufacturer tells it so.

Yep. Was trying to keep the explanation of the ongoing comms between the car and the manufacturer’s systems simple.

Unless given permission in advance to automatically accept OTA updates, no version i’ve seen accepts one without user permission at the vehicle end--effectively a “go ahead and send it”. 

[adsm08 4,726]

1 hour ago, Handy Don said:

Unless given permission in advance to automatically accept OTA updates, no version i’ve seen accepts one without user permission at the vehicle end--effectively a “go ahead and send it”

 

With Ford you have to have everything enabled, but minor updates can be pushed without your consent. In fact a lot of software recalls are being done this way. Ones that might require extended down time will ask you to schedule it and will not go ahead if the vehicle is running at the scheduled time.

[rjg854 13,153]

I'm in D.C. for the 4th of July, and visiting my son and his wife. Went to the Museum of the Bible today. They've been doing multiple flyovers and many more scheduled for tomorrow. They are going for a world's record over 18,600 fireworks.  Happy Birthday, America.

[MainelyWheelhorse 2,756]

5 hours ago, adsm08 said:

 

Only until it isn't.

Definitely, speaking of which this highlights a drawback of text instead of speech, as I meant “Isn’t Technology Great” sarcastically.