ebinmaine 63,339 #26 Posted January 31, 2020 I don't run PTO on our horses but I didn't know that was a problem area for these. Part of maintenance on ANY machine involves partial disassembly and lubing things. I'm not sure I see why a tech would tell you that. Others will be along to help you with proper assembly sequence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #27 Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 8:08 PM, briankd said: anyone here use this VHT high temp paint ? i also found some high temp primer. should i use the primer also on the bare metal or just spray the red on it ? don't know if just the paint will stick very well hope to start putting this 12 horse back together this weekend still waiting to get the rest of tractor painted it sitting in a pile in paint booth corner my buddy been busy on other projects I have never used their high temp paint, but have used VHT Wrinkle paint for quite a few years and it works really well. My local Advance Auto Parts carries the VHT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #28 Posted February 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Mr Magoo said: I have never used their high temp paint, but have used VHT Wrinkle paint for quite a few years and it works really well. My local Advance Auto Parts carries the VHT. i shopped around i usually buy all my spray paint from my local menards store they have a good selection but their high temp paint is all black or silver they do have some engine enamels but not red went to local auto zone and bought can VHT red caliper paint 9 bucks a can one can should just do the engine and the red close match to the red i'm painting tractor maybe a tad darker 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #29 Posted February 1, 2020 15 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I don't run PTO on our horses but I didn't know that was a problem area for these. Part of maintenance on ANY machine involves partial disassembly and lubing things. I'm not sure I see why a tech would tell you that. Others will be along to help you with proper assembly sequence. this tech been working on garden tractors for a living for 40 yrs or more and done a lot of wheel horses a lot of people not mechanically inclined and run them till something breaks he seen a lot of these grenade over the yrs the bolt i need is gone i don't think i took it out when i sent crank to get turned and machine shop took it out and i never got it back i'm going to run it without theses parts and if have an issue won't be hard to put em back 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #30 Posted February 1, 2020 4 hours ago, briankd said: i shopped around i usually buy all my spray paint from my local menards store they have a good selection but their high temp paint is all black or silver they do have some engine enamels but not red went to local auto zone and bought can VHT red caliper paint 9 bucks a can one can should just do the engine and the red close match to the red i'm painting tractor maybe a tad darker Our Menards by far and away has the biggest spray paint selection I have ever seen. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #31 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) after long day at work today i stayed after and hung basically the whole tractor and engine tins to get painted Monday mourning our paint guy off Mondays but he coming in on his day off to spray it the only thing that not hanging is the trans. there are a hell of a lot of parts compared to my 857 i done it here the same way 10 yrs. ago . also you see the cardboard i like to use the original bolts over they get painted and when i get it assembled i have some fine brushes i will touch up the bolt heads and what not . kinda neat have some red paint on stuff tired of seeing blue here all our semi tractors get painted here when they get tore up and it happens quite a bit Edited February 2, 2020 by briankd 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Magoo 226 #32 Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 8:04 PM, briankd said: finally got started on this tractor tore it down little over a year ago haven't had to to mess with it stated sandblasting it and like a dummy i didn't use a respirator (face shield only ) used the black blaster sand from menards it is recycled coal slag time i was done i inhaled about a bag of it and face was black from it . felt the effects latter that evening hacking around from it. bought this blaster from harbor freight worked pretty good sat down and did the dash panel and strg wheel cap that a little tedious to do when wife talking at you asking questions paint be here for it next week and have one of the guys at my work going to paint it in our paint booth at work should look better than new i hope will have more pics to come Looks good. Did you repaint the dash panel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 9,976 #33 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) On 1/30/2020 at 1:17 AM, ebinmaine said: If the can of high temp paint recommends a high temp primer I'd be ok with it. I've never used a primer with any high temp paint before though. Bit late with this I know. I do my engines with BBQ paint. Holds up well. Edited February 2, 2020 by Stormin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,339 #34 Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Stormin said: Bit late with this I know. I do my engines with BBQ paint. Holds up well. Does that come in anything but flat black? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #35 Posted February 2, 2020 11 hours ago, Mr Magoo said: Looks good. Did you repaint the dash panel? no i did not just scrubed it in sink with dawn dish soap 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 9,976 #36 Posted February 2, 2020 That's all I've seen, Eric. Hammerite Matt Black. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #37 Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Stormin said: Bit late with this I know. I do my engines with BBQ paint. Holds up well. that what i got painting the uper part engine fined area flat black BBQ paint the rest i have VHT high temp red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #38 Posted February 3, 2020 worked on getting engine back together today forgot my torque wrenches at work or it would been back together block bored 20 over cranks turned 20 under kouler spec on crank is only 10 under but i save tractors makes a 20 under rod.( hope this won't be an issue ) has new valves governor gear wow that cost a lot genuine kouler part . got all the innards in the engine just need to torque the rod and put the head on then paint the thing 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #39 Posted February 4, 2020 well it is finally red i think it is a little dark tho told our paint salesman i wanted IH red but there are 2 diff. red's the old red and the new red i think he sold me the new red but once it started spraying nothing can do about it i think my trans i rattle caned is going to be a little lighter red but oh well or maybe it just me starting to go color blind just got to get it all home without scratching it lol 3 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 26,612 #40 Posted February 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, briankd said: red's the old red and the new red i think he sold me the new red but once it started spraying nothing can do about it It looks great!! The old IH red is darker that the new IH red. Example : a Farmall H is darker than a Case IH 7120. The newer color is a closer match to red, I think. But then again I've never had a new old stock piece to take to a jobber so that they can use a scanner on it. To be perfectly honest about color, in the ball park is quite close enough. No one will persecute you, unless you spray your JD green & yellow . To haul my freshly painted parts, I lay some cardboard down in the bed of my truck & space every thing out as much as I can. Then the trip home is done as though I'm driving on eggs the whole way home. 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,339 #41 Posted February 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Achto said: spray your JD green & yellow You're only allowed to do that if you pass out eyeball forks to everyone who sees it 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #42 Posted February 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Achto said: unless you spray your JD green & yellow . ha ha that aint never happening anyone does that should be shot !!! speaking of yellow and green told my wife i get this done i may as well get rid of my only green and yellow 110 she didn't like that too well she says i have too much crap. she says no way that is happening told her that was hers then i will stick with my red tractors then 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,339 #43 Posted February 4, 2020 7 hours ago, briankd said: that was hers She can be converted to the correct side with time and patience. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #44 Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) well i had some time today to get the wheels on and frame attached to trans would like to work on this more but only have Thursday afternoon my day off work and Sundays wife says " you spending too much time working on that lawn mower " lol told her it will be worth it when done . also keep telling her it a lot more than just a lawn mower everything goes good hope to have the K301 back together Sunday and paint it Monday after work wow there is a lot to paint on this when i did my 857 i painted it one week and put it back together the next week and was using it it had less parts can someone please send me a picture or post it here of the throttle linkage it has a lever on blower shroud and linkage goes over to the governor link i probably can figure it out but a pic would help so i get it correctly connected i should have took a pic before disassembly thanks Edited February 6, 2020 by briankd 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,339 #45 Posted February 6, 2020 Looks fantastic! Perhaps you could gently tell your Other Half that this is no more a lawn mower than a new (insert her dream vehicle here) is just a car.... Garden tractor. Equipment. Permanent ownership. We've 4 tractors here and not a mower deck on any one of them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #46 Posted February 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: We've 4 tractors here and not a mower deck on any one of them... everyone in this neck of the woods all tractors like this are lawn mowers that is their mentality here. a tractor is a piece of equipment used in the field pulling implements on the farm . everyone asks at work how my lawnmower project going i say what lawnmower i have a little tractor 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #47 Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) finally got to work on this about 3 hrs today got alot of it together i am going to rewire the whole thing done away with all the safety switches (clutch pto seat ) when get it done will have to go and retouch bolt heads and some minor stuff with paint i bought some stair step tread at lowes hard rubber kind was going to cut them to size and use two face tape to stick em to running boards wanted something smooth for ease of cleaning the mud dirt off i hope two face tape will hold it bought some gorilla tape cant find stair treads with self adhesive backing i still have a way's to go before it is done Edited February 17, 2020 by briankd 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #48 Posted February 23, 2020 worked most of the day on this whole tractor has new wiring all put back together need to put front spindle covers on yet and when it warms up more need to touch up some paint here n there. need to get a battery for it fill the trans with oil and engine with oil I haven't ran it yet when i do will try to get a video of it running my exhaust pipe coming out from under hood a tad long but guess will keep the heat away from the paint and may keep me from breathing as much also turned the flapper sideways may help deflect some away from operator. and want to say a thank you to the vinyl guy here what an awesome decal package he sells they and all his stuff are the best out there going to try and leave plow bracket on this as long as it don't interfere with the draw-bar 3 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
briankd 816 #49 Posted February 23, 2020 any one how much oil does the trans hold on this ? i thought 2 quart ?? was looking at menards and they want 8 bucks a quart i may borrow some oil from work 75-90 full synthetic we run in semi's anyone notice the sae. 30 motor oil kinda scarce around me i like to use valvoline or penzoil but hard to come by they have the sae 30 in the mower department and it usually some off the wall no name oil.thought about just useing 10w - 30 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 63,339 #50 Posted February 23, 2020 Trans should be 2 quarts, yes. Oil and it's usage are a hot button topic on this and most forums. There are as many opinions as types of oil and engines. HD 30 oil of SJ grade is best. SN is an ultra low zinc/phosphorus oil and should probably be avoided if possible. General consensus is that it's WAY more important to make sure your oil is changed at the proper intervals than what brand you use. Some have had oil consumption issues using a thinner oil like 10w30. I have used it during the winter and been fine. I don't have the chart in front of me but I know Kohler recommends HD 30 for 3 warm seasons. Above 32 or 40 maybe?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
