upstate yank 219 #1 Posted September 17, 2019 well guys i am back for another issue i have;it seems i have removed the shroud so many times i should know but there is a wire that runs off the unit to the fly wheel that came off and i really do not know where it ties in to ;so any help sure would be appreciated ;again thanks everyone boy it is tough getting old and forget full Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #2 Posted September 17, 2019 Goes to teh A terminal on the trigger. The manual has a good picture of the wireing. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upstate yank 219 #3 Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, pfrederi said: Goes to teh A terminal on the trigger. The manual has a good picture of the wireing. thanks but there is already a wire there for the trigger ;i need to down load the manual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #4 Posted September 17, 2019 There should be 2 wires that come out from behind the engine end plate One is for the head lights one for the ignition trigger Do not mix them up. The wire on the I terminal of the trigger goes to the coil and has another wire piggy backed on it, that is the kill wire that goes to the ignition switch 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upstate yank 219 #5 Posted September 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, pfrederi said: There should be 2 wires that come out from behind the engine end plate One is for the head lights one for the ignition trigger Do not mix them up. The wire on the I terminal of the trigger goes to the coil and has another wire piggy backed on it, that is the kill wire that goes to the ignition switch thanks so much and now i do recall the one wire is piggy backed in to the connector that goes to the trigger just as you mentioned ;yep the headlight wire is red which i followed ;the one in the picture is white which goes to the unit on the fly wheel' again getting old and forget full doesn't help the old brain is just loosing it hehehe thanks again now to figure out why the lighter;headlight switch and clutch switch doesn't work as they did yesterday but that right now isn't a big issue ;it is getting this engine to run ;no spark off the plug but current to the trigger wire ' i had a member send me a trigger plus i am going to try the one that came with it now that i have this figured out plus current to the connector at the end where it plugs in to the trigger ; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,503 #6 Posted September 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, upstate yank said: plus current to the connector at the end where it plugs in to the trigger ; Hold on a minute. There is no power to this type of ignition. That will release the magic smoke. Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upstate yank 219 #7 Posted September 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: Hold on a minute. There is no power to this type of ignition. That will release the magic smoke. Garry it seems i miss spoke myself as far as current what i should had said was the test light lite up so there is juice to the trigger now to figure out why no spark ;hope this helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #8 Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) The testing for Triggers is done off the engine. please read the manual as if it is done incorrectly you will fry the trigger. There are separate tests for the output of the stator Edited September 17, 2019 by pfrederi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upstate yank 219 #9 Posted September 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, pfrederi said: The testing for Triggers is done off the engine. please read the manual as if it is done incorrectly you will fry the trigger. There are separate tests for the output of the stator yep i understand that and i will read the manual thanks again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 951 #10 Posted September 18, 2019 Dean as stated above the energy for this ignition is self contained. I think you have the terminology mixed up here the trigger is the small unit (the one you are gapping) the The Capacitive Discharge Ignition (CDI) is the one that is attached the engine shroud. Hope this helps 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upstate yank 219 #11 Posted September 18, 2019 ;if i had of looked more at that the coil set up i would had walked away ; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 951 #12 Posted September 20, 2019 I spoke to Dean he is not getting any voltage on the black wire that goes to the CDI (unit attached to the shroud) of the engine does anyone know what voltage this unit is suppose to receive and where it comes from. Could he do a 12v jumper from the battery to the CDI just to see if he gets spark? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,503 #13 Posted September 20, 2019 I would say no. The manual describes use of a flashlight tester so 1.5 volts would be max. Garry 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob R 951 #14 Posted September 21, 2019 17 hours ago, gwest_ca said: I would say no. The manual describes use of a flashlight tester so 1.5 volts would be max. Garry Do you have any idea where this low voltage comes from? Any suggestions as to how to supply this voltage to the CDI to see if Spark is produced. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,147 #15 Posted September 23, 2019 Two parts to a breakerless system. You check the coil for resistance with an ohm meter. The trigger is tested separately off the engine with the flashlight tester. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites