WVHillbilly520H 10,376 #751 Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Well now that's a whole different game of physics there. Hard surface, ultra fast machine, big engine, very little steering to be done. But also most amount of rubber in contact for "bite"... Your set may better be explained as a narrower tire has better traction in less than ideal snow/muddy conditions where you would rather not float on said surface but "dig" into it ... A tiny technical aspect vs a blanket statement ... Now back to regularly scheduled programming... 😉 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVHillbilly520H 10,376 #752 Posted November 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, tom2p said: I've read and heard a skinnier tire can deliver better traction in mud or snow or whatever but in my personal experience and observations - the wider tire always delivered better traction (given same parameters/variables) motorcycles, 3 wheelers, quads, dune buggies, trucks, tractors ( did I miss anything ? lol ) do snowmobile tracks count ? That may come down to actual tread design and depth more than narrow vs wide... Rice paddy tires are narrow and deep lugs flotation tires are normally wide and minimal lug depth there are so many variables I believe in the end in ends up being personal experiences... For instance 23x10.50s Turfs or AGs turning sod everything else being the same the AGs most likely win that battle or even mowing slopes but most here would say (excluding myself) plowing snow the turfs win (if chained up)... Its the classic battle and one that may never be won... I was just busting Eric's chops as his Cinnamon Horse rides on the wider is better and now Collosus is going skinny... BTW @ebinmaine maybe Collosus will look much like this orange ride? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,771 #753 Posted November 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, WVHillbilly520H said: That may come down to actual tread design and depth more than narrow vs wide... Rice paddy tires are narrow and deep lugs flotation tires are normally wide and minimal lug depth there are so many variables I believe in the end in ends up being personal experiences... For instance 23x10.50s Turfs or AGs turning sod everything else being the same the AGs most likely win that battle or even mowing slopes but most here would say (excluding myself) plowing snow the turfs win (if chained up)... Its the classic battle and one that may never be won... I was just busting Eric's chops as his Cinnamon Horse rides on the wider is better and now Collosus is going skinny... BTW @ebinmaine maybe Collosus will look much like this orange ride? I had an old GMC PU with REALLY wide tires and it was absolutely worthless in the snow! I think it takes several PSI on the snow to pack it down to get something strong enough to sink some teeth into to get traction. Otherwise it just slips through the loose pack. Almost bought a Case 444 last month. If it had the original hood I would have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,167 #754 Posted November 25, 2020 23 hours ago, DennisThornton said: I had an old GMC PU with REALLY wide tires and it was absolutely worthless in the snow! I think it takes several PSI on the snow to pack it down to get something strong enough to sink some teeth into to get traction. Otherwise it just slips through the loose pack. Almost bought a Case 444 last month. If it had the original hood I would have. The hood in the picture looks correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,771 #755 Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, jabelman said: The hood in the picture looks correct? Absolutely! But not on the one I was looking at. Someone had bent up some sheet metal to form somethijng that worked, but... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHNJ701 4,167 #756 Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, DennisThornton said: Absolutely! But not on the one I was looking at. Someone had bent up some sheet metal to form somethijng that worked, but... My bad I thought that was the picture you looking at. Those old case tractors are tanks if you get a chance to own one you will definitely love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisThornton 4,771 #757 Posted November 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, jabelman said: My bad I thought that was the picture you looking at. Those old case tractors are tanks if you get a chance to own one you will definitely love it. Been after a Case 444, bigger or newer for 10-15 years at a price I could justify. Just recently I find one 90 minutes from home with my pickup already full at a price I could afford (had cash on me!) but it had NO deck, no attachments and without the original hood. I'm still looking! I'm concerned about attachments though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,666 #758 Posted November 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Well then..... Well well then. Lookin good 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,666 #759 Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, ebinmaine said: Agreed, and thank you. Should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 190 lb of fluid in those 4 tires. 190lbs is a good addition of weight. Your are still wheel weight capable? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldskool 6,666 #760 Posted November 25, 2020 That is some extra weight for sure. I know my GT is a bit soggy and I think it's in the 850 875 range. When/IF you get stuck you will have a job on your hands 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormin 9,986 #761 Posted November 25, 2020 Just in case you may get stuck, Eric, how about mounting a small ATV winch on Colossus's bow? Could be used for other applications as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
