Bean701 35 #1 Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Got this tractor off a good friend who knew I had an interest. Unsure of year, possibly an 86. 700 Eaton (bad news, but works), 12 horse Kohler (my first Kohler, good!) rotting paint, came with a small mowing deck and a snow blade. Edited August 27, 2019 by Bean701 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #2 Posted August 27, 2019 So this will be my “build” thread for this little tractor. So far I’ve managed to install a way too small set of Amazon special Ag tires, install a new gas cap/gauge, new tail lights are here but not installed, and I ordered a way too big air filter. I previously had a 84 GT1800 Work Horse. The motor failed and the tractor was junked. However I found it mostly intact and am going to retrieve it for a parts tractor. 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZXT 2,394 #3 Posted August 27, 2019 That thing isn't nearly as crusty as a lot of them out there! Looks like it'll be a good worker once you get the Eaton fixed/swapped out. What brand and size are those rears? They look pretty good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #4 Posted August 27, 2019 The tires are “Deestone” 23x8.5-12. Apparently the Chicoms don’t have an accurate tape measure bc these are a far cry... The 700 seems to function really well. It’s very smooth compared to the 1100 on my old GT. But when it fails I’ll have a swap hopefully. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #5 Posted August 27, 2019 Anyone able to decode this engine tag and come up with a year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,332 #6 Posted August 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bean701 said: Anyone able to decode this engine tag and come up with a year? I went with the Deestone 10.50s and we're very pleased with the fit on my 414 eight . They did not have a lot of bulge on the outside of the rims . Deestone tends to run a little smaller which ended up being a nice fit. Nice looking tractor to and I agree there's not a whole lot of rust on that one like some I've seen . Ill be watching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
81blackhood 168 #7 Posted August 27, 2019 looks like 1985. Nice tractor👍 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZXT 2,394 #8 Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Bean701 said: The tires are “Deestone” 23x8.5-12. Apparently the Chicoms don’t have an accurate tape measure bc these are a far cry... The 700 seems to function really well. It’s very smooth compared to the 1100 on my old GT. But when it fails I’ll have a swap hopefully. Whoops - I must've glossed over the "news but works" part of what you had in parenthesis. I only saw the "bad" part. Glad to hear that it is in working order! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 10,503 #9 Posted August 28, 2019 Engine made in 1985 but it landed on a 1986 tractor model 21-12KE01 or 21-12KE02. https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?&q="21-12KE01"&type=downloads_file&search_and_or=or Garry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #10 Posted August 28, 2019 What is with the paint peeling off in sheets? Was this a common issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #11 Posted August 28, 2019 Another issue is the engine is just RUNNING wide open from start to shut down. No t sure why. The throttle cable is connected and it’s moving the linkage. But engine is full go all the time. The tractor has a clickity-clack fuel pump on it so unsure if that’s related or what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 8,852 #12 Posted August 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Bean701 said: What is with the paint peeling off in sheets? Was this a common issue? When they moved to the 300,400,500 series they changed the paint process and it fails in sheets like a powder coat does. I restored a 312-8 gear drive for my son a few years ago. Sand blasted everything to bare metal and repainted. It's a great stout tractor and is worth every bit of time I put into it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 59,736 #13 Posted August 28, 2019 Could you post a video of start up including the carb linkages? If you override the governor and manually control the carb butterfly does it settle down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #14 Posted August 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, oliver2-44 said: When they moved to the 300,400,500 series they changed the paint process and it fails in sheets like a powder coat does. I restored a 312-8 gear drive for my son a few years ago. Sand blasted everything to bare metal and repainted. It's a great stout tractor and is worth every bit of time I put into it. Thanks. Looks like powder coat in my future. Possibly will try a chemical stripper. Items needed to be addressed before winter- New brake band Need to go thru the dozer blade and clean it up Need to find a handle for dozer blade to turn the direction and find a scraper edge. Diagnose the carb and fueling, get the throttle working. R&R headlights and taillights, figure out why they are t getting power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #15 Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, pullstart said: Could you post a video of start up including the carb linkages? If you override the governor and manually control the carb butterfly does it settle down? Not sure how to override the governor. I know zero about Kohlers. I will work on a video. I wish I could put a tach on this thing, it is revving to the moon. Edited August 28, 2019 by Bean701 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 59,736 #16 Posted August 28, 2019 I’ll go take a video of what I mean... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 59,736 #17 Posted August 28, 2019 @Bean701 here you go. I guess I’m not the best at explaining what I mean,.. but hopefully you can use something from the video. I’m wondering if your carb is held wide open by your governor linkage.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bds1984 1,384 #18 Posted August 28, 2019 I have those same 23-8.50R12s on my straight axle 520H and I like them a lot because they're smaller. The tires are loaded and with the wheel weights it is a formidable machine for plowing and pulling because they bite and dig right in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #19 Posted August 29, 2019 10 hours ago, pullstart said: @Bean701 here you go. I guess I’m not the best at explaining what I mean,.. but hopefully you can use something from the video. I’m wondering if your carb is held wide open by your governor linkage.. Fantastic video, thanks! I’ll dig into it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #20 Posted August 29, 2019 5 hours ago, bds1984 said: I have those same 23-8.50R12s on my straight axle 520H and I like them a lot because they're smaller. The tires are loaded and with the wheel weights it is a formidable machine for plowing and pulling because they bite and dig right in. That makes me feel better about the size. I’ve been sort of down about it! If they handle your big tractor they should handle mine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #21 Posted August 29, 2019 On 8/28/2019 at 10:32 AM, pullstart said: @Bean701 here you go. I guess I’m not the best at explaining what I mean,.. but hopefully you can use something from the video. I’m wondering if your carb is held wide open by your governor linkage.. Pullstart- you are right, it is absolutely being held open. I took a video but I don’t think I can upload direct. I’m working on it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 59,736 #22 Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bean701 said: Pullstart- you are right, it is absolutely being held open. I took a video but I don’t think I can upload direct. I’m working on it. Youtube is free to upload to, then share the link here 👍 Edited August 29, 2019 by pullstart Auto correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #23 Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) May do that Edited August 30, 2019 by Bean701 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #24 Posted August 30, 2019 Anyone know what model Kohler air cleaner this takes? I got one way too big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bean701 35 #25 Posted August 30, 2019 Also need recommendations for a new reasonably priced seat that won’t ruin the look of the tractor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites