squonk 43,962 #26 Posted March 30, 2019 I'd fix the trans, put a different exhaust on it and run it if it was me. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 3,272 #27 Posted March 30, 2019 Guys your not helping, I need that K141. 1 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeacemakerJack 10,743 #29 Posted March 30, 2019 Welcome to glad you found us. I like the personality that your little tractor has. Someone went to great lengths to make a custom tractor yet giving it an “original” feel. I would make any modifications that you feel necessary to have it serve your purpose, but keeping it mostly as it is wouldn’t be a bad call. It really works as is. ...Besides if you spend much time on here, you’ll be buying more of them anyway. You’ll be able to purchase an original in the near future! You are the only one that has one that looks exactly like that! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cudakid 50 #30 Posted March 30, 2019 I've got a happy camper! 5 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeacemakerJack 10,743 #31 Posted March 30, 2019 now that is awesome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 51,920 #32 Posted March 30, 2019 Not to be Debbie downer her tho put the fenders back on if he's gonna have on a drive it (and he should) . Wouldn't want to see his leg caught in them ags... just sayin... 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cudakid 50 #33 Posted March 30, 2019 I will. I knew I would get busted on here too. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skippy1969 135 #34 Posted March 31, 2019 Welcome!!! Thats a very cool custom Suburban,I really like it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 29,433 #35 Posted March 31, 2019 Great looking tractor!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,465 #36 Posted March 31, 2019 Ok - just have to ask - where is the 'Cuda hiding? Sarge 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clueless 3,272 #37 Posted March 31, 2019 15 hours ago, cudakid said: I've got a happy camper! With the proper 4 hp engine his leg would not be in much peril. I've got two, one was rebuilt by an old Briggs and Stratton dealer about 8 years ago never been started, the other is supposed to be rebuilt, I haven't tried to start it. We can do some swapping. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cudakid 50 #38 Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Sarge said: Ok - just have to ask - where is the 'Cuda hiding? Sarge I have a '67 notchback that's been sitting for about 10 years. I really should be working on it, but I always seem to find other projects and hobbies to keep me from it. 55 minutes ago, clueless said: With the proper 4 hp engine his leg would not be in much peril. I've got two, one was rebuilt by an old Briggs and Stratton dealer about 8 years ago never been started, the other is supposed to be rebuilt, I haven't tried to start it. We can do some swapping. That is a very tempting offer. I'm kind of torn between the "hot rod" side of me and the other half of me wanting the original fit and finish of the 4hp engine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 67,097 #39 Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 1:35 PM, Racinbob said: Along with the 3523 Jim mentioned the input gear/shaft might be suspect. Do this test before you open the transmission. Put the transmission in third. You'll feel the shifter balls slip into the detents on the rails. Then, with it in third gear see if there's any in/out play on the input pulley. There should be none. If there is, determine how much and make note of it. You'll need to get a 3/4" ID arbor shim of that thickness to slip on the input shaft as you reassemble things. That play represents the amount the 3523 gear can and will disengage from the input gear as you're running it. Bob, does this trick apply to all transmissions? I’ve never heard of that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,991 #40 Posted April 1, 2019 2 hours ago, pullstart said: Bob, does this trick apply to all transmissions? I’ve never heard of that! At least the 3 and 4 speeds. The most recent I needed to do this was on a 5025 from an 854 I picked up at the big show last year. It wasn't popping out of third but it had a little play and I was opening it up for inspection anyway. The thing only had about 2 tablespoons of oil in it when I got it and I feared the worse for the rest of the gears but I got lucky. he first time I noticed this was on a 50103 piece case like @cudakid has. One thought on that one was to use thinner side plate gaskets but that wasn't feasible because I was using extremely thin gaskets already. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarge 3,465 #41 Posted April 1, 2019 A restored '67 is a rare thing - I'd get after it. Value isn't there to collectors as with the later years, but that early styling has an attraction all its own. I almost bought an early '68, regretted it ever since as that one was totally rust free. Dad had a '66 Charger in the brushed silver, very unforgettable and quite elegant car - you hardly ever see those at the shows either, which is too bad. Sarge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 51,920 #42 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, pullstart said: Bob, does this trick apply to all transmissions? I’ve never heard of that! 2 hours ago, Racinbob said: At least the 3 and 4 speeds. The most recent I needed to do this was on a 5025 from an 854 I picked up at the big show last year. It wasn't popping out of third but it had a little play and I was opening it up for inspection anyway. The thing only had about 2 tablespoons of oil in it when I got it and I feared the worse for the rest of the gears but I got lucky. he first time I noticed this was on a 50103 piece case like @cudakid has. One thought on that one was to use thinner side plate gaskets but that wasn't feasible because I was using extremely thin gaskets already. I never have either Bob this last 5049 two piece one I did has about 1/16 to 1/8" play, maybe better never measured it, on the input pulley. Never worried about it as other trannys have the same. So what you are saying is using shim stock shim the input shaft, 2-28, over towards the hi/2nd gear 2-30? Maybe leave a little for end play? Does make sense tho to keep the input gear stuffed in the 3523 as much as possible. Edited April 1, 2019 by WHX22 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,991 #43 Posted April 1, 2019 That's what I do Jim. A 3/4" arbor shim slipped on to the input shaft as you install it through the bearings to allow the detent balls to keep the two gears firmly together. I go for zero end play. You don't need any. Grab a 3523 and a 3522 gear/shaft, put them together and give them a little twisting pressure as you slowly start to disengage them. You won't have to go far before the twisting pressure pushes them completely apart. I figure if I can get about half way before they push apart they can be used if they are held together firmly. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 11,449 #44 Posted April 1, 2019 So Bob you place the arbor shim on the shaft of the input shaft gear and it rides between the gear face and the bearing on the right side casting of the transmission (item # 2-28 ) in Jim's drawing above? And that takes out any slack or play in the input gear linkage? Where can you get those 3/4 arbor shims? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 51,920 #45 Posted April 1, 2019 Sure it's 3/4 Bob I thought the input shaft was 5/8??? 54 minutes ago, Racinbob said: I go for zero end play. Does this mean you can shift on fly!?!?! 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,991 #46 Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Lane Ranger said: So Bob you place the arbor shim on the shaft of the input shaft gear and it rides between the gear face and the bearing on the right side casting of the transmission (item # 2-28 ) in Jim's drawing above? And that takes out any slack or play in the input gear linkage? Where can you get those 3/4 arbor shims? Perzackly Lane. The shim rides on the center thingy of the bearing and is smaller in diameter than the OD of the bearing. I got my 3/4" ID (more on that in the @WHX22 quote) shims at WW Grainger. I bought a variety pack of 20 a there. Works like a charm. 49 minutes ago, WHX22 said: Sure it's 3/4 Bob I thought the input shaft was 5/8?? All the one's I did were 3/4" The 5091 on my 1976 is 5/8" but the gear design is different so I didn't need them. I'm not going to say all the 3 and 4 speeds are 3/4" but just the ones I've done. 52 minutes ago, WHX22 said: Does this mean you can shift on fly!?!?! NO YOU IDIOT!! Ignore what the owners manual says...…………..but you knew that...…………. 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 51,920 #47 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) Geez Bob now you gonna make me run out and measure all of my twenty some trannies .... and I'm already in my pj s and it's cold out! The only reason I know mine are 5/8 is it takes me two of the 5/8 input seals after I futz the first one up! TSC should have machine bushings too Lane. The thin ones that are behinD rims on spindles and in back of the fan gear would work good if you need 3/4. Dino @stevasaurus says I can shift on the wing!?!?....He might just want to get in my trannies tho... Sorry for stealing your thread with our transmission yak Cuda... Edited April 1, 2019 by WHX22 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,991 #48 Posted April 2, 2019 I'm thinking you'll find the 5/8" on your 6 and 8 speeds. I'm also thinking Steve would start wearing socks before he'd say it's OK to shift on the fly. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 51,920 #49 Posted April 2, 2019 True Bob...remember I don't have anything above a '67 save for a couple of rats @$$ 520's and a couple of verts... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,307 #50 Posted April 2, 2019 ALWAYS COME TO A COMPLETE STOP BEFORE SHIFTING !!! ALWAYS COME TO A COMPLETE STOP BEFORE SHIFTING !!! ALWAYS COME TO A COMPLETE STOP BEFORE SHIFTING !!! ALWAYS COME TO A COMPLETE STOP BEFORE SHIFTING !!! NO SOCKS GOT DIRTY IN MAKING THIS STATEMENT !!! Can't wait to get the chance to spill some port in that new trailer Jim. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites