Ed Kennell 41,988 #1 Posted February 20, 2019 I had occasion to watch this movie last evening. It is a chilling reminder of the determination of these suicidal terrorists and how quickly our lives can be changed. And for you guys traveling through SW Pa on your way to the Big Show in June, I also recommend a visit to the Flight 93 memorial at the crash site in Shanksville, Pa. It could also be a day trip for anyone staying in Gettysburg. It's probably a 2 hour drive. I will caution you, a visit to the memorial and listening to some of the final calls made by the passengers to their loved ones is a somber experience. https://www.nps.gov/flni/ 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dclarke 4,082 #2 Posted February 20, 2019 We stopped at the crash site a few years ago, Ed. Very moving to say the least. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 10,717 #3 Posted February 20, 2019 My wife and I watched the movie about a year ago. It was a good reminder of this sobering event, yet the true american spirit of those passengers rose to the call to stop an evil wrong. They knew their lives were about to end and while they could of sat cuddled and scared they fought to save others lives. When we were in New Jersey for my sons wedding in October we also visited the New Jersey, Empty Sky Memorial in Liberty Park at the mouth of Hudson River across from the World Trade Center site. Seeing all the names of just the people from new Jersey that lost there lives was also very somber. Thanks for the reminder Ed, I will put the crash site on my travel list. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 8,345 #4 Posted February 20, 2019 I was at the site when it was just a hole in the ground and a cyclone fence. The fence adorned the personal belongings of the passengers on the plane. I knew 911 was a horrible event. but that visit set me back on my heals. Every time I see those 911 numbers I remember those people and that freedom comes at a price. It is a real riveting piece of our history. I plan on making another trip to see the memorial now. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tuul Crib 7,339 #5 Posted February 20, 2019 A friend of mine works for the airlines and pieces these together for investigation. I've heard some of his gruesome stories. These people (terrorists) need to be stopped! God bless us all! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 12,045 #6 Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) I have not yet visited that site but will do so this year. The events of that day changed my life forever. I was one of the lucky ones for we did a lot of work in both Towers and just the day before I was in tower one in an Architects office for a good part of the day. Was supposed to go back that day but an unexpected situation took me to Pennsylvania instead. It took over 12 hours that day for my family and employer to find out where I was. Since I had full freedom of schedule and movement, I never let anyone know where I was headed that day. Sure enough all communications were down and I couldn't call anyone. They all assumed I was there since that was where I was scheduled to be. Since most radio stations in this area were broadcasted from NYC, many from antennas in those buildings I was not even aware of what was happening since there was no radio transmission and I was driving while this was happening. I was in and out of those buildings since I was 20 years old. I could see them from my house since I am less than10 miles from NYC. I recommend that if anyone comes to this area to go visit the 911 Memorial and Museum at the site. It is a moving and befitting Memorial to all that perished there. I have been there dozens of times and shed tears each time for it all was so dear to me. With advance notice I will personally take any and all of you to it if you so wish. Edited February 20, 2019 by formariz 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 41,988 #7 Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, formariz said: I have not yet visited that site but will do so this year. The events of that day changed my life forever. I was one of the lucky ones for we did a lot of work in both Towers and just the day before I was in tower one in an Architects office for a good part of the day. Was supposed to go back that day but an unexpected situation took me to Pennsylvania instead. It took over 12 hours that day for my family and employer to find out where I was. Since I had full freedom of schedule and movement, I never let anyone know where I was headed that day. Sure enough all communications were down and I couldn't call anyone. They all assumed I was there since that was where I was scheduled to be. Since most radios stations in this area were broadcasted fro NYC, many from antennas in those buildings I was not even aware of what was happening since there was no radio transmission and I was driving while this was happening. I was in and out of those buildings since I was 20 years old. I could see them from my house since I am less than10 miles from NYC. I recommend that if anyone comes to this area to go visit the 911 Memorial and Museum at the site. It is a moving and befitting Memorial to all that perished there. I have been there dozens of times and shed tears each time for it all was do dear to me. With advance notice I will personally take any and all of you to it if you so wish. Thanks for sharing your personal experience. Most of us see so much violence on the medias, I'm afraid we become immune and don't feel it affects us. These personal reports, visiting the sites, and listening to those heart wrenching last phone calls of the victims really makes it real. I know it would not pass muster, but I feel a visit to one of these sites should be a mandatory class trip for all our high school students. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 12,045 #8 Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Ed Kennell said: Thanks for sharing your personal experience. Most of us see so much violence on the medias, I'm afraid we become immune and don't feel it affects us. These personal reports, visiting the sites, and listening to those heart wrenching last phone calls of the victims really makes it real. I know it would not pass muster, but I feel a visit to one of these sites should be a mandatory class trip for all our high school students. I totally agree that we are all so exposed to so much violence and negativity through all the means now available to us that we are becoming desensitized to all of it . It is just normal routine and therefor accepted as normal when it should not be. I also agree as you said that a class trip to such a site should be mandatory. After all, trips are taken to many sites to appreciate and celebrate mankind's achievements and great works. Why not also expose them to the not so great achievements. Undoubtedly the indescribable and undeniable emotional effect this place would have on them would serve them well for the rest of their lives. We shelter our children too much and that will just make them commit the same mistakes we did or make them insensitive to these occurrences. After all of these years I have never been there once without seeing several people (family members) off to the side or by a name sobbing and placing flowers next to it. Perhaps to the casual visitor they go unnoticed but to me they are upfront all the time. It is at that young age that they should be exposed to it otherwise later in life they will treat it like many do now as just another tourist stop. It is definitely not that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites