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Buzz

Last week there was a Raider 10 up for auction in NJ with an opening bid of $50. A day or so later there was a bid for $55 accepted with no reserve. I was going to bid but it slipped my mind. It ended on 2-26-09 and was sold for $56. I kicked myself for not bidding. :thumbs: The auction number was # 120381141873 and the seller was gregg07066

When I was looking at ebay a little while ago I saw the same tractor and thought son of a gun, the buyer is going to resell it and make a few bucks. Wrong! It's good old gregg07066 selling it again for a buy it now of $350 and the aution lasts for a month :whistle: Something very strange is going on. If he sold it for $56 last week how is he selling it for $350 this week. Did he renege on the deal with the first buyer? Or were the two seperate bidders in the first auction "shills", you know, friends of his trying to run the bid up? Gregg, if you're on Red Square you've got some 'splaining to do. :whistle: Oh yeah, this months auction is # 120384899367

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Coadster32

I was watching that also. You could contact e-bay and let them know.

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canam1991

You should give him an offer of $56 and see what he does!!!! :thumbs:

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Michael Bullington

I think you hit the ole buddy system on the head...I almost hate to even buy on ebay anymore because everyone does it...I'll even share a story with ya..

My wife works with a lady that her and her husband sell estate stuff for people on ebay. My wife came home with a list of ebay numbers for me to help them out and go in and run the bids up. :thumbs:

Well the list found its way to my fireplace and well... let me just say this nicely that no more list came home. :whistle:

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jerrell

:thumbs: Michael i had something similar happen to me, i met a man selling on ebay, said he had a friend to run the price up , said sometimes he had to eat a price but made more doing it that way, sent an email to ebay giving name and item # that he sold and NOTHING, he's still in business and selling like crazy.. you know , i just think money has taken a different meaning for some folks now, to some it is everthing... less honesty.. :whistle:

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64s

Buzz, I saw the same thing and did some checking to see if I was wrong. I found out he tried to sell it for $250 as a starting bid and there wasn't any takers. Then it starts at $50 and "sells" for $56, and now magically its back for $350 BIN or BO. The guy never changes the pictures or description. I too was going to bid but I forgot. Now I wouldn't give a nickle - besides his friends are ging to outbid me!!!!

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Teddy da Bear

I don't bid on ebay anymore either.

The last item I bid on was kind of overpriced and I won.

The guy said cash, check/money order or paypal.

Well I got a lot of bs from him and how he would not

except a certified check. Well I pointed out to him what

his ad said and that was it. So he tried to solicit my

social security number.....I told him the deal was off.

He tried to ruin my reputation there.....ended up ruining

his. But fact is....ebay backs up it's sellers.....buyers

have no rights.

It's a crooked place we can do without.

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Operator

Another interesting topic. I bought my laptop the first of Dec. the guy had like 120 of them, I won a bid then I never heard from him I had to send 3 e-mails before I got any back. I did get my laptop 4 weeks later. A lot of people didn't even get theirs, alot of the laptops did't work or were different than advertised [mine was one] . The seller Global Trading did get booted off.

Now after reading this thread I'll be even more careful.

Thanks for the information!

Randy

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Sarge

The latest changes made to Ebay with regard to hiding buyer's id's is a crock , this lets their friends hide even better than ever . I've pretty much stuck to established sellers for parts I've dealt with in the past , otherwise I prefer to deal with Craig's list .

Sarge

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Duff

Another interesting topic. I bought my laptop the first of Dec. the guy had like 120 of them, I won a bid then I never heard from him I had to send 3 e-mails before I got any back. I did get my laptop 4 weeks later. A lot of people didn't even get theirs, alot of the laptops did't work or were different than advertised [mine was one] . The seller Global Trading did get booted off.

Now after reading this thread I'll be even more careful.

Thanks for the information!

Randy

There is something eerily familiar about this laptop story. In my "other" life I work closely with law enforcement since the agency I work for is a private security firm and thus has limited powers outside our own campus. We had a case last fall that involved a person allegedly (I say allegedly because the cases haven't been to court yet and thus the suspect hasn't been convicted of anything) stealing monitors and laptops from us and selling them on eBay. I can't comment further about the case yet, but the timing and the numbers sure sound, shall we say, familiar......

As to my own eBay dealings, I've identified a very small number of sellers I've done and continue to do business with because they've always been above board with me. Others I watch carefully..very, very carefully. :thumbs:

As to eBay as a business, I happen to know the CEO of the company, and my impression of him is he's a pretty stand-up guy. We're not friends, mind you, just someone I know professionally and have been able to get a reading on. Like many good ideas that have come along and literally exploded with success, eBay has grown phenomenally in a fairly short time. There's no doubt it has its problems - we've seen them, we hear about them, and unfortunately some of us have suffered from them. But I think we may be painting with a little too broad a brush to say buyers have no rights. Sellers may appear to have the edge, but eBay isn't stupid- without a steady base of buyers there would be no point to the business and no revenue.

Rather, I think we may want to think about this in terms of the sheer scale of the operation. eBay handles thousands, maybe millions of transactions daily. Even if only one in a hundred is sour, multiply that in terms of the overall number of auctions they're handling and I would imagine their complaint department is swamped. Some, maybe all of us, have seen the bids run up by fake buyers. This process used to be called "by-bidding" when I worked for an old country auctioneer as a kid, and if my boss found out about it those involved would be unceremoniously escorted off the premises. Again, multiply this behavior by the hundreds because of our electronic age and you can see just how daunting a task it is to respond to each and every complaint. Now add to this the buyers who think they're being rooked because they aren't paying attention, don't read the item description carefully enough and/or don't contact the seller for clarification, or are PO'd because they think they're being by-bid when they're not and choose to complain to eBay about whatever is going on. Scary stuff.

Anyway, I didn't mean to go off on a tangent. My point is simply that it is easy to portray eBay the company as the big baddy in what's going on, but we need to remember that the problems start with individuals abusing the system. Like so many other things in our society and in life, if people would just do the right thing we wouldn't need to even have this discussion. Sadly, it seems to be the way of the world today. :whistle:

Duff

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HorseFixer

Sounds like the guy was trying to slip someone the GREEN WEENIE :thumbs: Sorry ya missed it Buzz! <_

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Horse Fanatic

When I see something I want, I enter the highest price I'm willing to pay at that time. I don't look at the auction as it's ending so that I don't get sucked in to bidding more. If I don't win because I bid too low or because their friend outbid me, so be it. As a result, I don't win the mojority of the items I bid on, but the ones I do, I'm always pleased with the deal I got.

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Buzz

The idiot is at it again......... :thumbs: While selling the same tractor that he sold the previous week:huhs: , and with 25 days left on that auction, he is now stripping it and selling it for parts. Be interesting if someone makes clicks the "buy it now" after half the parts are gone............ Here's the latest auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WHEEL-HORSE-RAIDER-10-...3A1%7C294%3A100

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Teddy da Bear

No disrespect to the poster....

But I had my post closed for alledged bashing of

a craiglist character....

Guess Eldon just gets a thrill of being my Overlord...

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kpinnc

No disrespect to the poster....

But I had my post closed for alledged bashing of

a craiglist character....

Guess Eldon just gets a thrill of being my Overlord...

No TDB, your post was closed for bashing a seller because of his asking price. Not in any way the same thing as agreeing to a price, and then backing out of the deal repeatedly. That kind of activity does indeed raise questions about the seller's character, and it's a good thing when members see these type things and point them out to the rest of us.

And I also remember a time when I felt like some people called me out on everything I did. But I eventually realized I was as much a part of the problem as anyone else. But hey, I guess that's just me.

Kevin

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Please do not post personal attacks on this forum.

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