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[JAinVA 4,619]

I have been posting here for a little while and have had the pleasure to meet a few of you personally.It may be a small point but in some ways I feel that some folks were raised by wolves or something.If you post a question on this forum for help about a problem why do some feel that its some kind of Google search.If someone offers advice or information is typing in a least thank you so Dam# difficult.I will say this I keep track of the clowns for whom a simple thank you is beyond them and it will be a cold day in hell if I will help them in the future.You guys are on your own.For the rest of you fine folks I thank you and will look forward to your guidance.JAinVA

Edited January 11, 2017 by JAinVA

[SylvanLakeWH 25,381]

I hear you - I'm wondering if it's a bigger issue than the typically fine folks on Red Square though. Seems appreciation and expressions of it are going the way of the social media trash heap...Sad really, all the negative vitriol on most sites...Very unlike this site.

 

I guess I have been very fortunate on this forum. With one exception, I have received nothing but outstanding help and consideration for my inquiries, and usually an appreciative "thanks" or something along those lines if I have tried to help someone out...And in that one instance? The gentleman, whom I do not know, PM'd me shortly after with an apology and explanation. Upstanding and appreciated.

 

I don't go on other social media sites for the very reason you are talking about - they are anything but "social" - they are ANTI-social...

 

I just hope this site continues to be used by such knowledgeable and kind people who are willing to share their expertise with those of us who are not WH experts. It really is amazing to me how willing they (and you) are to spend their time helping folks out that they don't even know (Including some who won't say "thanks"). I certainly appreciate it!

 

Thanks for posting this. Good reminder to us all what a great group is here to help us out and that they deserve a "thanks".

[JAinVA 4,619]

I remember many years ago I was going into the local post office with an arm of load packages and a kid not more than 10 opened the door and held it open for me to enter.I asked him to wait as I disposed of the load and handed him a gratuity.I told him that good manners would take him places.I don't know if he remembers the encounter but I have always thought that you should encourage and reward good manners and civility.

I rarely post on any other forums because there seems to be no one in control of the content.(thanks again to the moderators).I hate to seem like I'm whining but as a reminder to all here for some of us a typed thank you is meaningful.JAinVA

Edited January 11, 2017 by JAinVA

[jellyghost 378]

The "like this" button on this website is valuable.  I don't feel strongly about someone typing a thank you note, but I worry about people posting questions and not even reading the responses.  I like to see some sign that the original poster is still engaged in the thread.

[JAinVA 4,619]

If a single reply is not acknowledged is one thing ,but in my mind multiple posts and PMs over  a couple days deserves more than a Like post.If you have solved a persons issue then a Like post in mind is not respectful.I will say the LIKE feature on this site is great but rude is rude and an old fart like me may not know what I had for lunch but some things get burned in the brain.Most here seem to appreciate the help provided.I know I do,but I feel that some just don't get it.

Edited January 11, 2017 by JAinVA

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,494]

Jim,

I understand where you're coming from.  To me, the "Like" button is for when you appreciate a post, but have no constructive comment to make.  Sometimes, too many posts on a thread that has a question may hinder the original poster's efforts to find the answer within that thread when he has to go through a few meaningful posts that doesn't address his question.  Then the "Like" feature keeps things concise and moving forward.  But, I also understand that when a question to a problem is answered, it's just good etiquette to respond with some sort of appreciative remark.

 

I guess I have been guilty of not responding appropriately at times, as probably we all have been guilty of said crime.  I sometimes jump on the site at work where I can't spend a long time responding the way I would like to, so sometimes the "Like" feature comes in handy.  Then when I get the time I try to go back and make a good, proper response.  The problem becomes I sometimes forget to do so.  Was I rude or just forgetful?  Maybe both?

 

I'm on a few forums, as I'm also a JD guy.  I'm on WFM and Greentractor Talk to just name a couple.  I see guys who join a site to either sell an item or they have a problem and want a quick response.  Many, many times, they post their question and never come back to that site for some strange reason.  Or they come back just long enough to see if their question got answered and then they don't come back after that.  You will find that most who stay around are in it for the long haul and want to be a contributing member, want to learn, and want to pass on what they learn from this site, or any other site they're on.

 

If I was retired I might spend more time articulating a responses to various threads.  I don't know though, as I might be too busy with things to get on the site as much as I do now.  I heard from those who are retired, that they're more busy after retiring than when they were working.  I'm hoping that I can experience whether that is true or not someday.  The point is, some just don't take the time nor feel they have the time to make a good response.  And they really should if they posted a question and that question was answered.  It is as you commented, good manners.

[953 nut 54,844]

Jim, I still remember the first post I ever made on this site. I had a specific question I needed an answer to and couldn't find it on the Internet search; it kept leading me here! I had posted a few times on other sites (different topics) and wasn't impressed with social media. I joined RedSquare to obtain the information "I" wanted and didn't expect that it would go far beyond that; wrong! Within an hour I had two excellent answers to my question and a dozen or so welcomes. The warmth of this group was refreshing to say the least. It made me want to return the favor.

 We all encounter a few "Users" regardless of where we go in life, all ages, all walks of life and all ethnicities have a few. There have been a few posters who are inconsiderate and a few that were down right rude, but they aren't going to read this post anyway, so I will just get down off my soap box and go have breakfast!     

[Jerry77 1,218]

1 hour ago, T-Mo said:

are in it for the long haul and want to be a contributing member, want to learn, and want to pass on what they learn from this site

Yeah, that's me - I love to help people, but as far a WH products go I have a tenuous grip on the bottom end of a slick stick- learning more than giving I am afraid - like the others- social media is a farce - but I really do enjoy Red Square....thanks to all of you for the things that I have been steered in the right direction on- they are priceless.  Maybe this is inappropriate, but I have to say if you haven't had the pleasure of dealing with an excellent person, I recommend Richmondred01..-Mark I apologize if I have embarassed you, but I couldn't help myself......I tried too...

Edited January 11, 2017 by Jerry77

[JAinVA 4,619]

Thanks to you all for the comments.I have read them all and you as usual have some sage advice.I was just venting.I am sure you guys have been there too.I look forward to learning more from you all and hope I can be of some help in the future.JimAnderson

[stevasaurus 22,632]

This is a very good thread.  Sometimes, I offer information or advise and I end up being the only one to answer a thread.  I would like to know if my information was correct, or my advise helped out.  I'm fine with the "Like" button, because it tells me that person I was trying to help, at least read my post.  We had one member here a year or more ago, that would come into transmissions and just ask a question...like he deserved an answer.  I answered him and he never acknowledged anything at all.  On his 3rd thread, I went and searched his content to verify he did this all the time.  We don't get paid enough to sit here and answer questions for members with no manners.  I sent him a PM and explained that if any information was helpful to him it would be nice if he came back in and said the information was good...it helps other members who take the time to search and a finished thread works wonders.

    He never answered my PM and I have not seen him back on Red Square either.     I was in no way demeaning in my PM.

[JAinVA 4,619]

stevasaurus,

   You  got the spirit of my comment perfectly.Thanks for the comment.I think you explained it much better than I did.Luck,JAinVA

[gt4 196]

 Thank You...Two little words, but they have a big impact,and go along way! In my opinion.

[953 nut 54,844]

1 hour ago, stevasaurus said:

never answered my PM and I have not seen him back on Red Square either.

I know the one you are talking about. You, Ed, Bob and I all responded and never heard back; after the second one I just quit responding to his questions.

[ACman 7,606]

Believe me , I know how far a simple THANK YOU can go . I sure hope I'm not one of the offenders . This is a great thread by the way Thanks  !

Edited January 11, 2017 by ACman

[oldlineman 1,475]

Thanks for this thread. I think sometimes the older generation was brought up a little different than the younger generation.That being said that does not in any way excuse this behavior. Example, I was taught to remove my hat when in side a building, still do that but not because my mother says to, but habit, not many others of later generations do. We all need to treat others as we would like to be treated, another one I learned while very young from my examples my Father and Mother! Bob Blough Jr

[hermitman 116]

Boy talk about me being paranoid,,,, I posted a question last night, then after reading this thread I was omg did I forget something? went back and checked,, I hadnt forgot a thank you. Such a simple thing. Only two words needed and thats a small price for the knowledge available and willingly passed to all on this site. Aaand since I'm getting older,, Thanks to all that make this site what it is! Bless you all!

[stevasaurus 22,632]

I don't think we have ever had a member that is a Supporter act like what we are talking about.  In the 1st place, no one needs to become a Supporter...in the 2nd place, being a supporter is kind of saying "Thank You" all by itself.  I would think that most of the time this happens, these are young people, but the manners are reflected in their parents.  I by no means would ever want to drive somebody away from this hobby because of their lack of manners, but I will send a PM to some body to explain why I sent them a PM.  One thing I tell them..."Remember, we do not have to help you." 

[Hacksawhero123 351]

Jim, I could not agree with you more. Along with your pet peeve, l hate it when someone blows in asking those on the site to diagnose their machine. The worst is that it's usually some simple problem (for anyone who has a slight knowledge of internal combustion engines), they get dozens of replies from the wizards here, and poof- they're gone. No "Thank you", and won't take the time to tell us what the hell was actually wrong with it!!!  Sorry to join the rant. 

Mark. 

[JAinVA 4,619]

Mark,

    I am really surprised at the responses from folks here so far.I think that one of the responses suggested that the offenders would never look at a post on manners.How true.  stevasaurus pointed out that supporters rarely if ever lack mannerly behavior.I have looked at the posters here and sure enough you guys that have commented on this topic are all supporters.Again I have read all the comments on this thread and feel better getting my frustrations off my chest.JAinVA

Edited January 11, 2017 by JAinVA

[oldlineman 1,475]

I for one use the " Like this " option when I agree with the post and have no more to add, and want to acknowledge the poster for there time and effort. I  have learned a great deal from the fokes here and have owned Wheel Horse and only Wheel Horse since 1979 , there is knowledge here that is not only book learned but more importantly hands on " this is how I solved the problem" knowledge. Like my grandpap used to say sometimes you learn more from doing something wrong than doing it right.  Bob Blough Jr.

[Aldon 4,826]

Ditto to most of the comments made above.

 

My pet Peeve, of which I have likely also committed myself is the lack of initiative to use the search function.at least give it a couple tries.

 

Overall I tend to give supporters and frequent posters a pass. Try to help and assist where my limited experience can be of aid.

 

With the advent of smart phones, there are occasions where I am knee deep in a problem grease all over me and I need some assistance but I'd like to think I have either shown appreciation on the thread or in a direct phone call to said helpers.

 

I really appreciate the support all the members provide. I often read and hit Thanks button due to higher level of expertise individuals chiming in with more valuable input than I could offer.

 

Almost everyone I have met personally have been great people.

 

I hope to hit the show again this year and meet even more friends.

 

[ACman 7,606]

1 hour ago, JAinVA said:

 Again I have read all the comments on this thread and feel better getting my frustrations off my chest.JAinVA

 

As I stated many times is what keeps me sane...Everyone has to vent sometime and it doesn't seem what you vent about here you'll get a response and Positive ones  !

 

32 minutes ago, oldlineman said:

Like my grandpap used to say sometimes you learn more from doing something wrong than doing it right.  Bob Blough Jr.

 

   ...grandpap was a wise man , I was a learner by doing and when you mess up something that's expensive you learn real quick !

[Hacksawhero123 351]

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all of you here for the knowledge that has been freely shared with me. I hope that I can give back as much as I take. I will also apologize for a couple of posts I have made that were completely unnecessary. I appreciate your patience. 

Mark. 

[rmaynard 15,383]

Great post. I think we need one of these every now and then just to remind us of what this forum is all about. And oh by the way, if I have ever forgotten to thank any of you for your advise or assistance, THANK YOU!

[Digger 66 3,478]

8 hours ago, stevasaurus said:

We had one member here a year or more ago, that would come into transmissions and just ask a question...like he deserved an answer.  I answered him and he never acknowledged anything at all. 

 

In sharp contrast on the site I used to MOD on , one guy had a total of 9 posts & they were all HIS .

He started with an electrical problem question or two .

Posted a little more every couple of days his progress .

And his last two posts were a solution and a tongue in cheek "thank you "  

 

It was a couple days before I realized this & finally offered him a welcome but he never responded & must have left .

Makes you feel pretty bad being a MOD & missing stuff like that .