Which tractor

[RICH FRO 16]

I am looking s getting a used tractor .

i would like to know the differences between a C-160 and a C-161

Both with the 1 cyl. Koehler motor

which is the better tractor

[wallfish 18,020]

Neither is better, both are very capable tractors with basically the same design but with a few differences.

I think the C-161 has a shaker plate for the engine which means it uses a special oil pan.

Pick the one with a better engine

[RICH FRO 16]

Thank you for the information . 

 

The price of the C- 160 is 395 $. The motor sounds good but no attachments.

Looking to cut grass and snow blow. How expensive are the attachments and would it be a big enough tractor to handle this job. 

[wallfish 18,020]

Grab it before someone else does now that people will know there's one for sale in your area.

They're plenty big enough and those tractors are designed for ground engaging attachments. A true garden tractor, not just a lawn mower. The 16 HP engines work very well for blowing snow and will handle up to a 48 inch deck.

Condition of the deck makes a huge difference in price. I've sold working 48 inch decks for $75 but have seen some nice ones sell for as much as $400

Average single stage Snowblower is around $200, give or take on condition.

[RICH FRO 16]

Great information ! especially for a new comer to Wheel Horse. 

If you hear of any good snowblowers  in the CT. area please pass it on to me. 

 

Thanks again,

Rich 

 

Edited June 9, 2016 by nylyon
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[roadapples 6,983]

I agree with everything Wallfish said. If it`s in decent shape grab it. Great tractor and good price, and it doesn`t hurt to offer less...oh and 

Edited June 9, 2016 by roadapples

[oliver2-44 10,674]

Does it have a manual or automatic transmission- pros & cons on them!

The manual is great for hard work, especially ground engaging and you can rebuilt it fairly easily if needed

The auto's are nice and slightly easier for mowing especially with a 'foot pedal kit" that Matt sell on here. I have no experience but read on here the auto is nice for snow blowing (someone with experience can comment on this)

The less desirable part of the auto is they are more expensive to rebuilt and getting difficult to get parts for,   

 

GO LOAD ONE OF THEM UP!

[WVHillbilly520H 10,376]

I have had a 520H "Hydro" or automatic as some call it since new in 1998 I have almost abused this little tractor and no problems as of yet with handling the heavy work of plowing tilling blowing ect, it has hydraulic lift which will be well appreciated for lifting a heavy snow blower or rear mounted tiller ect these hydro trans were put in the biggest of the garden tractors which is the 520 or the newer TORO Xi series so if they weren't better in some respects vs the manual transmission they wouldn't have used them behind 20+ hp twin cylinder engines as well as 3 cyl diesel with 40+ lbft of torque my , and I can't comment on the foot pedal control have no issues with the column mounted motion control lever but after 18 years of use it's pretty much 2cd nature by now, the C160 is all metal body and the C161 has fiberglass if it's the "BLACK HOOD" still all  either will be a fine tractor if taken care of,Jeff.  BTW attachments are easily found here on the east coast and not to pricey for the 70s-90s B C 3/4/500 series horses and all fit across board for the most part.

Edited June 9, 2016 by WVHillbilly520H

[oliver2-44 10,674]

Some of the C series had an earlier Eaton Hydro and some had the Sundstrand hydro.  The oil filter points towards the rear for the Eaton and towards the side for the Sundstrand. Both good, but many on here prefer the Eaton  

The 520H reference above has the later Eaton 1100 which is the crown jewel of hydro's

The 1978-79 C161 had a metal hood early in production and a fiberglass hood later in production.

 

 

 

[elcamino/wheelhorse 9,362]

Don't take a chance buy both tractors one for mowing one for snow work , that way you don't have to change attachments. Plus you would be on your way to being a  addict. By the way welcome to 

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,599]

The Eaton Hydrostatic transmission didn't appear on the C-series until 1980 with the C-125, C-145 and C-165.  Both the C-160 and C-161 will either have the 8 speed Wheel Horse gear transmission or the Sundstrand hydrostatic transmission.

Edited June 9, 2016 by T-Mo

[AMC RULES 37,195]

[DougC 2,643]

Buy the one you like the best, and  to the forum RICH. 

[ACman 7,649]

 

48 minutes ago, elcamino/wheelhorse said:

Don't take a chance buy both tractors one for mowing one for snow work , that way you don't have to change attachments. Plus you would be on your way to being a  addict. By the way welcome to 

 , to RED SQUARE ... aka Horseoholics Anonymous , Wheel Horse Addiction Center , The Wheel Horse Rehab Institute , i'm sure I'm missing some others ?  . Do you have any pics of these fine steeds. We all love   ! Elcamion has the right idea   we all know what's going to happen anyways.

[wallfish 18,020]

5 hours ago, RICH FRO said:

If you hear of any good snowblowers  in the CT. area please pass it on to me. 

After you buy a tractor let me know, I have one that I put an electric motor on to control the chute. I use a larger 2 stage blower now and this is a backup but doubt I'll need it anytime soon. Was thinking of taking it to sell at the big show in two weeks but would prefer to sell it locally and not transport it down there.

[V-Four 34]

5 hours ago, RICH FRO said:

Great information ! especially for a new comer to Wheel Horse. 

If you hear of any good snowblowers  in the CT. area please pass it on to me. 

 

I hear that..

 

 

[RICH FRO 16]

Thanks , i will.

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages of a single stage verses a 2 stage blower ?

 

My driveway is 2 cars wide by 100 ft. in Ct. This would give you an idea of the snowblower needs.

[wallfish 18,020]

2 stage is bigger at 44 inches wide but harder to find and more expensive. I use an 18 HP to run it. It's heavier to lift with a manual lift but helper springs can make it work. A 16 HP can run it but I even strain the 18 sometimes. The thing is a beast in any condition snow or amount.

Single stage is 42 inches with the wings attached and much easier to put on, take off and store. A 16 HP will run it nice (that's what I used) and should throw snow 35 ft or more. Will need more passes in deep heavy snow over a foot. Guaranteed it is much nicer to use than a walk behind is. Snow cab is always a good idea if you can find one. And even a better idea is to have a separate plow tractor for the light storms and clean up.

I use a separate tractor for each attachment but realize this is not for everyone. BUT, a smaller plow tractor is really handy. A 6 or 8 HP is perfect for plowing snow. Plowing snow is fun and fast! 

[WVHillbilly520H 10,376]

A tall chute single stage (42" clearing path) did everything I asked it too, the slush/pile from city/county/state plows choked it up but other than that 2'+ snows never stopped it on a 1/4 mile long dirt/gravel driveway in WV now the 2 stage (44'' clearing path) doesn't choke on slush/piles but very heavy and HP hungry but a 16 single will run it but your left arm will hate you I have hydraulics so not much effort after its installed,Jeff.

[WVHillbilly520H 10,376]

A couple pics....My 520 with single tall chute ,then with 2stage ,then 2stage actually blowing snow ,and the fact a C160 can handle a 2stage,Jeff.

[userj8670 68]

So minus the shaker plate one is really not better or more heavy duty/desirable than the other  (c160 vs161)?

2 hours ago, WVHillbilly520H said:

A couple pics....My 520 with single tall chute ,then with 2stage ,then 2stage actually blowing snow ,and the fact a C160 can handle a 2stage,Jeff.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not your c160 that's currently for sale by any chance? 

[WVHillbilly520H 10,376]

7 minutes ago, userj8670 said:

 

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's not your c160 that's currently for sale by any chance? 

Sorry no it's not , it was a tractor I was looking into getting mostly for the 2stage and missed it by 1 day (I think it sold for $1600)...anyway I found my 2stage a year later for $250 so I reckon I didn't lose out on anything,Jeff.

[KC9KAS 4,744]

@RICH FRO 

[Retired Wrencher 5,754]

On ‎6‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 11:12 AM, wallfish said:

Neither is better, both are very capable tractors with basically the same design but with a few differences.

I think the C-161 has a shaker plate for the engine which means it uses a special oil pan.

Pick the one with a better engine

I agree with John. I personally do not like the cradle engine design. To me it robs power.  I think the C 161 is an Auto?

Edited June 10, 2016 by T1257 RETIRED WRENCHER.

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,599]

35 minutes ago, T1257 RETIRED WRENCHER. said:

I agree with John. I personally do like the cradle engine design. To me it robs power.  I think the C 161 is an Auto?

 A C-161 could be either a 8 speed or an automatic (hydro).