953 nut 54,844 #26 Posted June 7, 2016 @achto is right on the money (except I use 600 wet and dry to wet sand, just my thing). The brand you use will depend on what your auto finisher's supplier caries, the important thing is cleanliness, preparation and consistency. Buy all of your products from the same source to ensure compatibility. The person behind the counter wants to have your project turn out well so ask questions. Use an automotive quality product and practice on some scrap material before you shoot primer and finish material on your . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,415 #27 Posted June 7, 2016 Sorry, one thing I forgot to mention. I use the Vansickle acrylic enamel only. They make different types of paint but the acrylic enamel is the easiest to work with and has the best finish and dry times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 54,844 #28 Posted June 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, achto said: one thing I forgot to mention. That is why you want to buy at a quality supplier and ask questions where you buy your materials, we all forget a detail or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #29 Posted June 7, 2016 alright so i think i will go with the sem self eching and primer. the sad part is i have to geter from walmart and i'm sure they don't have painting experts. now i need to figure out a good top coat, I have some rusteuleum regal red now left from rusty. i should get better paint for Jr.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #30 Posted June 7, 2016 Is there really a diffence in high build and just plain ecthing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 54,844 #31 Posted June 7, 2016 9 hours ago, russellmc301 said: sad part is i have to geter from walmart When you consider the amount of work you will be investing in the restoration of your it would be a shame to use inferior materials to finish it. If you expect good results you must use good products. The total cost may be a hundred dollars different but the results will be worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRanger 1,468 #32 Posted June 7, 2016 48 minutes ago, russellmc301 said: Is there really a diffence in high build and just plain ecthing? Yes. Two different products for two different purposes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #33 Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) there is echting high build and just plan echting. alright, the reason i would be buying it from walmart is is one of my local places that sells it. i would plan on buying it form eastwood but the thing is i dont need a gallon of erethane. i could get a quart from walmart. but that is true walmart is know for it crap. so that means i should get the paint from east wood also, the thing is i don't need a gallon of regal red to paint it, i think. so is there a place where i can get the same quaility paint but in smaller cans? Edited June 7, 2016 by russellmc301 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 54,844 #34 Posted June 8, 2016 I don't buy everything from Eastwood, if you have a Sherwin-Williams, NAPA or other good auto parts store that sells auto paint and finishing supplies talk to them. I live in a rater remote area and it is over an hour round trip to the NAPA store and over three hour round trip to a good auto finisher's supply house so mail order works best for me. The owner of a body shop attends my church and has mixed the occasional quart of urethane paint for me, you could try that route if needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #35 Posted June 8, 2016 Well I have all 3 of those and my dad gets a contractors dicount from Sherwin- Wiliams. Next time my dad goes and picks up and order I'll go along and see what they have. I might also go to Napa and look since it is a 5 minute drive. The self eching paint seems like a must have so i might get it from eastwood. Thanks for the help 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 54,844 #36 Posted June 8, 2016 I think NAPA has the etching primer also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #37 Posted June 8, 2016 Is the medal clean enought or should i get the pits clean also? I think they do too, they have a Masive selection of paints, i have catalog from early 80's and it's 6inchs thick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,415 #38 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) The cleaner the better. Every step you take prepping will effect the next step you take. If some rust is left behind this is where self etching really comes in to play, the high zinc content in most self etching primers helps to keep the rust at bay. If you have a Napa near by that mixes paint it could be the place for one stop shopping on this project. Edited June 8, 2016 by achto 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,587 #39 Posted June 8, 2016 Going to stay out of the paint reccomendations.. painter I'm not..rattle cans I get more on myself than the tractor ....sides Dan @achto is close enough I can take my paint to him! Just chiming in to follow your progress Russell & ask are you going/need to go through the tranny? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #40 Posted June 8, 2016 I don't think so the tranny seems to be in good enough shape. how much you think it would cost me to go to napa and get all the stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,415 #41 Posted June 8, 2016 40 minutes ago, russellmc301 said: how much you think it would cost me to go to napa and get all the stuff? Truthfully there are too many variables to answer that question. A lot depends on the grade of every thing. They used to offer a generic brand for primers, but its been a while since a bought paint there. Their normal brand of paint is Martin Senior, if they still make an acrylic enamel I would suggest using that for your top coat. Should be no need for a clear coat. Best suggestion is stop in and price every thing out. 2 hours ago, WHX61/3 said: ....sides Dan @achto is close enough I can take my paint to him! Would be more than happy to help you out in that department. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #42 Posted June 8, 2016 The person im doing it with has some left over enamel primer and other supplies we will use up, the primer is ppg and he said it will work so thats a huge plus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 54,844 #43 Posted June 8, 2016 11 hours ago, achto said: If some rust is left behind this is where self etching really comes in to play, the high zinc content in most self etching primers helps to keep the rust at bay 32 minutes ago, russellmc301 said: some left over enamel primer Start with the self etching primer! It is the foundation your finish will be built on. You can use the enamel primer over the self etching to achieve a smooth finish. If you were building a house you wouldn't want to skimp on the foundation; same thing with your finish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #44 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) i was still planning useing eching first still i just need to go to napa and see what they have. my dad said we may have to get new since the formal may have changed, also is spraying medal like spraying wood with laquer? my list is self ectching then some type of enamel or somthing else good, then a good regal red top coat. Edited June 9, 2016 by russellmc301 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #45 Posted June 9, 2016 toke the engine off and now useing the magic wire on drill and the gasket scaper to peel away the paint to get ready for sanding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,415 #46 Posted June 9, 2016 If they don't have regal red the early lnternational Harvester red is real close. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #47 Posted June 10, 2016 will gear box cover form a 36in fit on the suburban deck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #48 Posted June 10, 2016 tommarow i will be going to napa to see if they sell paint and if they do price stuff out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #49 Posted June 14, 2016 making progress i still need to get to napa, tommarow is the day. do you think the metal is clean enough? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russellmc301 600 #50 Posted June 14, 2016 does anyone have the governer linkage for the K-91 we have the arm on the block but we need the rest. we also washed all the grease off the frame, nothing like a full servicing car being your neighbor to the shop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
