Theroundhousernr 590 #1 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) So I noticed some jerky movements from my hydro this past storm. I chalked it up to the bushings in the dash column or lack of lubrication. I sat on the my 416H this morning to move it and thought the whole tractor was rocking on the rear wheels it seemed. I lay down on my creeper and find this! Can anyone tell me what size and length bolts this requires, hopefully I can pick some up on my way home and loctite them in. Thanks! Edited January 31, 2016 by Theroundhousernr 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,844 #2 Posted January 31, 2016 EEEKKKK! I think 3/8" by 3/4" They aren't realy long. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theroundhousernr 590 #3 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) EEEKKK is right!! My thoughts exactly. That would have been a story if the transaxle let loose in 3 foot of snow! The other two are loose to boot! Just was researching, looks like your dead on with 3/8/16 x3/4" Thanks! Edited January 31, 2016 by Theroundhousernr 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,523 #4 Posted January 31, 2016 Use Threadlocker Blue too! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wishin4a416 2,191 #5 Posted January 31, 2016 Wow!!! You are lucky you didnt get down to one. You caught it in time!!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theroundhousernr 590 #6 Posted January 31, 2016 I wonder if there are any stories out there of the lucky person who lost three bolts and was down to ONE! Geez, This is a nice tractor to, almost zero rust and hardware like bolts and springs look darn near new. Talk about dropping a rear, twisted sheet metal and linkage... Geez.. I would be one unhappy pup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JERSEYHAWG / Glenn 4,499 #7 Posted January 31, 2016 geeeeeeez. crazy how stuff works its way loose. but. you caught it. Glenn 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theroundhousernr 590 #8 Posted January 31, 2016 The weird thing is I could have sworn I looked under at the mounting plate last year and everything was accounted for. I guess maybe I was looking for cracks and the side plating blocked the missing bolts from where I was looking. Hard to believe they fell out in one storm. Been having jerky hydro movements especially going from forward to reverse and stopping. Recently got a lot worse. Note to self, get down on the ground with a wrench and look better. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,062 #9 Posted January 31, 2016 Yikes, looks like it's time to creep under some horses. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,844 #10 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) When I had a Snowblower on a C-145, I was out hitting the neighbor's driveway pretty good. We had over a foot on the ground. The bolt that holds the chain for the mower lift bar fell out and that bar was dragging. I backed up and that bar caught and lifted the entire rear off the ground! I had to drag my 2 ton floor jack about 500 ft. to get the tires back on the ground. Edited January 31, 2016 by squonk 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,281 #11 Posted January 31, 2016 Squonk...I swear, you always have a story to out do what is going on. Why don't you just shoot yourself?? But do it after this years show...OK??? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terry M-(Moderator) 2,237 #12 Posted January 31, 2016 Maybe I'm over thinking this....But after you replace the first two, Maybe remove and replace the second two. Just thinking those could have been overly stressed or something while the frame was moving back and forth. Wouldn't cost much and better to be safe than sorry. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,105 #13 Posted January 31, 2016 I have made stupid mistakes and forgotten to tighten things too, I just don't tell everyone. 29 minutes ago, squonk said: The bolt that hold the chain for the mower lift bar fell out 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 42,062 #14 Posted January 31, 2016 25 minutes ago, squonk said: When I had a Snowblower on a C-145, I was out hitting the neighbor's driveway pretty good. We had over a foot on the ground. The bolt that hold the chain for the mower lift bar fell out and that bar was dragging. I backe up and that bar caught and lifted the entire rear off the ground! I had to drag my 2 ton floor jack about 500 ft. to get the tires back on the ground. Sorta like a driveshaft launch when the front U joint lets go.....only at a slower speed. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,281 #15 Posted January 31, 2016 Terry's right...put in the missing 2 and then replace the other 2. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 7,260 #16 Posted January 31, 2016 According to the parts manual 3/8 x 7/8 with lockwashers. Loctite may be a good idea, I would just use blue in case you ever need to remove these again. In order for loctite to work the bolt and female threads in the axle need to be clean and free of grease. Cleat 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,844 #17 Posted January 31, 2016 14 minutes ago, cleat said: According to the parts manual 3/8 x 7/8 with lockwashers. Loctite may be a good idea, I would just use blue in case you ever need to remove these again. In order for loctite to work the bolt and female threads in the axle need to be clean and free of grease. Cleat Has anyone seen a 7/8 long bolt? I haven't and I don't have a story for it. Steve may find a bolt in the bottom of his electryolisis tank 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,281 #18 Posted January 31, 2016 You do need the lock washer. If you are not sure...put an awl or a 3/8" bolt in and measure what you have...give a little room for tightening. Squonk...you are correct. It is not rocket science...if the bolt is too long...put in a shorter one. And Mike is right again, Wheel Horse used some different length bolts...when you can not find them, you can cut them to length. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,844 #19 Posted January 31, 2016 53 minutes ago, stevasaurus said: Squonk...I swear, you always have a story to out do what is going on. Why don't you just shoot yourself?? But do it after this years show...OK??? I don't own a gun. Maybe I could eat a running Tecky before the raffle. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,105 #20 Posted January 31, 2016 22 minutes ago, squonk said: I don't own a gun. That is probably a good thing, think about it! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 23,281 #21 Posted January 31, 2016 Just so you know...I love you man. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 43,844 #22 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Me too! Not to hijack or crow about another brand, but my Power King is put together with almost all fine thread bolts. Everything but the engine. Nothing is coming apart on that thing and when you work on it you better have power tools or it's gonna be a long day. Edited January 31, 2016 by squonk 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 60,105 #23 Posted January 31, 2016 Just found an seller that has a lot of 150 3/8-16 X 7/8" Grade 8 hex head bolts for $ 29.99 with free shipping, they do exist! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theroundhousernr 590 #24 Posted January 31, 2016 OK so NEW grade 8 bolts and lock washers. All 4 bolts replaced. I dont mess around when it comes to that stuff. Blue thread locker and beleive it or not , I even torqued them to spec of 35 ft lbs. I just got home and read all these comments and had a good chuckle! Good to go now 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc724 925 #25 Posted January 31, 2016 I better go crawl undermine tomorrow and check. At least it is going to be warm here-60 degrees in MA. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
